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U.S. Department of State 95/07/28 Address & Q&A: US National Interest in Asia-Pacific Office of the Spokesman U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE Office of the Spokesman For Immediate Release July 28, 1995 ADDRESS AND QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION BY SECRETARY OF STATE WARREN CHRISTOPHER ON U.S. NATIONAL INTEREST IN THE ASIA-PACIFIC REGION National Press Club Washington, D.C. July 28, 1995 (Introduction of Secretary Christopher.) SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: Bud, thank you very much for that nice introduction. It was so substantive that I think you've made probably most of the points that I intend to make today. (Laughter) I will, nevertheless, continue. As you say, tomorrow I depart on my sixth trip to Asia as Secretary of State. First, I go to Brunei for the annual meeting of the ASEAN group -- the Association of Southeast Asian Nations. Then I go to Malaysia to meet with that country to try to strengthen our ties with a country of increasing importance. Then to Cambodia, whereas Bud says I'll be the first Secretary of State to visit since John Foster Dulles, and have a chance to reaffirm our support for the efforts of the people of that country to overcome what is a very tragic past. And then to Vietnam, which is a trip that I greatly look forward to, to have an opportunity to carry forward the normalization that President Clinton announced in a very farsighted way the other day, and also to continue to pursue the high priority that the President has given to getting the fullest possible accounting of information with respect to the POWs and MIAs. Over the past half century, I have personally witnessed many of the historic changes that have swept the Pacific. As a teenager, I moved to Los Angeles and watched California build links between the Far West and the Far East. As a young ensign in the U.S. Navy in World War II, I saw the Asia-Pacific region devastated by four years of war. As a young negotiator in the textile talks in Japan in the early l960s, I saw firsthand the region poised for a very rapid economic growth. And now as a still-young (laughter) -- well, almost -- Secretary of State, I see a region with extraordinary potential for prosperity, stability, and democracy. This hopeful turn of events would not have come to pass without the indispensable role played by the United States. After World War II, America's leaders understood that a secure and prosperous Asia was vital to our national interest. Our military presence promoted stability. It gave nations in the region a chance to build thriving economies for the benefit of all. The transformation of the Asia-Pacific region that has taken place since World War II is truly breathtaking. In the space of half a century, nations that were among the oldest outposts of colonialism are now among the newest frontiers and most successful exponents of capitalism. Underdeveloped, largely rural societies have moved to dynamic modern economies offering broad opportunities to all the peoples of their countries. These economic miracles are increasingly associated with the spread of political freedoms and vibrant social societies. As a result, we are turning the seas and skies that once divided us into channels of communication and cooperation. The trade and investment dollars that stream between Asia and America create jobs and propel our economic growth. Our nation, I should emphasize also, has been enriched by millions of Asian Americans imbued with the values of education and hard work and family -- values that are just as important to Americans as they are to Asians -- and with it a stream of marvelous Asian students in our universities, probably the most numerically largest, and in many ways the most successful, of our foreign students in our universities. On the fiftieth anniversary of the end of the Second World War, American leadership in Asia remains as essential to our security and prosperity as ever before. With the end of the Cold War, the political landscape in Asia is undergoing really profound changes. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the largest powers in Asia -- Russia, China, and Japan. So in this time of great uncertainty and change, a stable U.S. presence seems to me to be increasingly important, and that is why President Clinton has renewed and reinforced our commitment to be and remain a Pacific power. Our strategy in the region recognizes the new opportunities and challenges that are posed by the post-Cold War world. Fortunately, this region is now remarkably free of conflict. But while no major power views another power as an immediate military threat, there is a considerable danger that age- old rivalries could be rekindled. There is also the problem that the dynamic economic growth that is spurring integration is at the same time creating new tensions, as there is a competition for resources and markets. With the growth of those markets and those economies and with new technologies have also come the spread of weapons of mass destruction. There has also come the emergence of very ugly networks of narcotics suppliers as well as very severe pressures on the environment from the growing economies. No single nation in the Pacific can confront these complex challenges all on its own. Certainly they can best be met through a community of nations acting together -- a very diverse community, to be sure, but one that's increasingly linked by shared values as well as shared interests. The leadership of the United States will be essential to bringing that community of the Pacific to life. To ensure a peaceful and prosperous Asia-Pacific for the 21st Century, we've adopted what I describe as a four-part strategy. First, we will maintain and invigorate our core alliances with Japan, Korea, Australia, the Philippines, and Thailand. Second, we're actively pursuing a policy of engagement with the other leading countries in the region, including -- and, perhaps, especially including -- our former Cold War adversaries. Third, we're building a regional architecture that will sustain economic growth, promote integration, and assure stability over the longer term. And, fourth, we're supporting democracy and human rights, which serves our ideals as well as our interests. Let me tell you a little bit about each of those four points. Our strategy begins with our core alliances because we understand that security must come first. Our military presence remains the foundation for stability and prosperity in a region where the interests of four major powers intersect. This military presence is our first line of defense. It safeguards our allies. It protects our economic interest. And it reassures a region that is still troubled by historical antagonisms. That's why our security presence in the Asia-Pacific region is so broadly welcomed. I've really been struck over and over again by how often countries in the region are anxious to hear us say that we're going to remain a Pacific power, and we'll remain in the region. Our Administration's bottom-up review of U.S. defense policy at the beginning of our Administration confirmed the continuing need for a forward deployed presence in Asia, and hence the United States is committed to maintaining approximately l00,000 troops in the Pacific -- the equivalent of how many we plan to maintain in Europe. America policy toward Asia begins with Japan. The United States/Japan partnership is the very cornerstone of our engagement in the Asia/Pacific region. Fifty years ago, the United States made a strategic choice to help Japan rebuild. Today our democratic, our alliance with the democratic and prosperous Japan is one of the real successes of the post-war era. Our challenge now is to assure that the next five decades with Japan are as effective and prosperous as the last five decades have been. I'm struck by how few Americans know that we are maintaining 47,000 U.S. troops in Japan, and that's in addition to the men and women in the Seventh Fleet. Their presence is no cold-war anachronism, as soon commentators have recently claimed. On the contrary, these American troops, which are stationed in Japan, are a very wise investment in the future security of the region. They provide a stabilizing presence for all the nations of Asia. Last November, the United States and Japan launched a new dialogue to renew and enhance our security ties. I'm pleased to have been part of that, as the Defense and Foreign Ministers of our two countries are examining very important issues like the interoperability of our forces which, of course, are enhanced when Japan purchases our U.S. weapons systems which, fortunately, they so often do. This new dialogue is also concentrating on such things as host nation support under which Japan provides 70 percent of the cost of our presence in Japan, another fact that is really not very well known to the American people. And we are deepening our global cooperation which has been very valuable, as Japan has begun to participate in peacekeeping endeavors in such places as Cambodia and Mozambique and Rwanda. In the post cold war world, we feel that Japan is in a position to take on even greater responsibilities than in the past, and that is why we are supporting Japan's bid to become a permanent member of the U. N. Security Council. Together we are doing a number of important things already. For example, supporting reform in Russia, peace in the Middle East, and stability in Haiti. And together we are addressing complex global issues like unsustainable population growth, AIDs and pollution through what we call our common agenda. And so, working together, what we have done together, makes us feel that Japan can even do more to take its place as one of the great countries in the world. As the two largest economies in the world, America and Japan also share a responsibility to uphold the goal of open trade and to support the international financial system. Our Administration has consistently sought to open Japan's markets, a role that we have taken because we know it will benefit American businesses and American workers, as well as Japanese consumers and the rest of the world. Under the U.S./Japan economic framework, we have reached sixteen new agreements that expand our access and the access of the rest of the world to Japan's markets -- sixteen agreements just since we have been in office in the last two-and-a-half years. Last month, as you know, we concluded an important agreement with Japan that will widen the access to Japan's markets for autos and auto parts, and last week we resolved a dispute over air cargo. While each of these sixteen and, I guess, now eighteen agreements are important in themselves, we also need to work to implement the agreements, so they aren't just agreements on a shelf but are implemented in the market place, and that will be crucial for the United States. Our relationship with Japan is a multifaceted partnership. It will achieve its broadest potential when all of the elements are strong -- strategic and military, diplomatic and political, and economic, as well. Let me turn now to Korea. It is really a great tribute to the Republic of Korea that our longstanding military and security alliance has now become a mature and important complete partnership. Yesterday President Clinton and President Kim Young Sam of Korea unveiled a Korean war memorial that pays tribute somewhat belatedly to the shared sacrifice that sealed our alliance more than 40 years ago. Now that South Korea is a vibrant democracy, as well as a valued trading partner and a trusted comrade-in-arms, our relationship is stronger than ever before. The U.S. security commitment to South Korea, which is demonstrated by the 37,000 American troops who are stationed there, a somewhat better known statistic, that security relationship and our commitment to them remains unshakable. Over the last two years, our determined diplomacy has put the North Korean nuclear issue on the road to resolution. The agreed framework between the United States and North Korea has frozen North Korea's nuclear program. When this is fully implemented, the framework will eliminate entirely their dangerous nuclear program. As North Korea carries out its obligations under the framework, it can begin to develop more normal relationships with United States and the other nations of the region. But I'd have to say that any major improvement in our relationships with the North can come only with progress in relationships between the two Koreas. In this context, recent talks between the North and the South on supplying much-needed rice to Pyongyang are a really quite hopeful development. The resumption of a broader dialogue between North and South, especially a dialogue on the issue of a nuclear-free peninsula offers the only really meaningful hope for reduced tensions and ultimate reconciliation on the peninsula. The second element of our Pacific strategic is our policy of engagement with the other leading powers of the region, and, as I said, including especially our former cold-war adversaries. In that connection, of course, few nations are able to play as large a role in shaping Asia's future as is China. With its vast population, its geographic reach, its rich history of cultural influence across Asia, its growing military power and its new economic dynamism, China is just unique. As we shape our policy and as we conduct our diplomacy with China, we must not allow short-term calculation to divert us from pursuing our long-term interests. I need not tell this sophisticated and experienced audience that we are going through a period of difficulty in this important relationship. One immediate cause of China's concern is that the recent private visit of Taiwan's leader, Lee Teng-hui, to his alma mater of Cornell, represents a shift in our approach to China. Let me say that this concern is unwarranted. The private visit by Lee Teng-hui was a special situation, and a courtesy consistent with American values and opinion. It did not constitute a shift in our policy toward China and Taiwan. The United States has not and does not intend to change its longstanding one China policy. In this moment of difficulty, it's more important than ever for China, Taiwan and the United States to focus and reflect on the shared interest we have in maintaining the continuity of this policy. It is a policy that especially and emphatically is in the interests of all of us together. Over 20 years ago, the United States and China made the strategic choice to end more than two decades of confrontation. Since then, six American Presidents, both Democrats and Republicans alike, have pursued a policy of engagement with China that has served and is serving the enduring interests of everybody, United States and all the others in the region. The policy of engagement reflects the fundamental understanding that our ability to pursue significant common interests and to manage significant disinterests, would not be served by any attempt to isolate or contain China. We do not intend to try to do so. The wisdom of this historic judgment of engagement has demonstrated time and again that our ability to work together on key challenges of regional and global importance will be best manifested by being engaged; by working together on such issues as the North Korean nuclear issue where China was of some help; and on the extension of the Non- Proliferation Treaty where we worked together at the United Nations. The virtues of this policy of engagement have also been demonstrated by the benefits of our success together in Cambodia, as well as the launching of the new regional security dialogues under the ASEAN umbrella. Since 1972, the basis for our engagement has been our one China policy. We have consistently followed the basic principles developed in the Shanghai Communique of 1972, the 1979 Communique establishing diplomatic relations, and the 1982 U.S.-China Communique on arms sales. Pursuant to these vital documents, we recognize that the Government of the PRC is the sole legal government of China. We acknowledge the Chinese position that there is but one China, and that Taiwan is part of China. We reaffirm that we have no intention of advocating or supporting a policy of two Chinas or one China/one Taiwan. This policy has produced enormous benefits for the United States as well as for China and Taiwan. It has helped to keep the peace, and it has helped to fuel prosperity on both sides of the Strait, and it is certainly helping to propel Taiwan's flourishing democracy. Just as we look to the continued strengthening of the U.S.-China relationship, we also expect that the unofficial ties between the American people and the people of Taiwan, pursuant to the Taiwan Relations Act of 1979, that those ties will also thrive. The United States, China and Taiwan share a strong responsibility to pursue policies that foster continued stability in the region. Managing our differences with China on Taiwan and other issues does not mean downplaying their importance. For example, on human rights we still have profound disagreements. We will continue to promote universally recognized human rights in China as well as elsewhere. We also have serious concerns with respect to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Today such weapons and their delivery pose the greatest threat to global security. As a nuclear power, China, just as the United States does, has special responsibilities. Since the outset of our Administration, we've made the case to China that curbing proliferation of weapons of mass destruction is in the overriding mutual interest of all of us. We're concerned particularly about arms transfers to volatile regions like South Asia and to rogue regimes like Iran. The best way we feel to resolve these concerns is through dialogue between the United States and China, and that is why I urge China to resume our discussions on non- proliferation matters. Just as we have a mutual interest in holding the spread of weapons of mass destruction, we also share with China an interest in assuring regional stability. As China seeks to modernize its military forces, greater transparency about its military capabilities and its military intentions could do a great deal to reassure its neighbors. Our differences with China are an argument for engagement, not for containment or isolation. Neither the United States nor China can afford the luxury of walking away from our responsibility to manage our differences. China has as much interest in maintaining constructive relationships as we do. Let me say that China can take an immediate step to help restore a more positive atmosphere with the immediate release of American citizen Harry Wu. Moving on to another subject and area, I look forward to meeting with Foreign Minister Qian Qichen of China in Brunei when I go there this weekend. I'll be meeting with him on August 1. I intend to discuss with him at that time the fundamentals of our relationship, to reiterate the continuity of our policy, to address candidly our areas of agreement and disagreement, and to seek to restore the positive momentum in our relationship that marked the earlier period. A strong, stable, open and prosperous China can be a valuable partner for the United States and a responsible leader of the international community. A week from tomorrow I will arrive in Hanoi. Since taking office, President Clinton has made his top priority with respect to Vietnam the fullest possible accounting of our prisoners of war and those missing in action. We have been encouraged by the results of Hanoi's recent cooperation during the months we've been in office. We're convinced that normalizing relations is the best way to keep up this momentum and to achieve further results. That is why after a decade of war and two decades of estrangement the President made his courageous decision to establish diplomatic relations between our two countries. Let me add that I have been personally inspired by the opportunity to work with the elected leaders of both parties, including Senator John McCain and Senator John Kerry and Senator Bob Kerrey and Representative Pete Peterson to bring about this normalization and to help close a very bitter chapter in our nation's history. Closer engagement with Vietnam is in America's interest in many ways, in addition to the POW and MIA issue. We can work together to promote economic reform, to focus on the rule of law, human rights, regional peace and stability, and to pursue areas of common interest, like the fight against narcotics trafficking. Similarly, engagement with other leading nations of Asia is crucial to our interest in that burgeoning region. Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore are dynamic countries from an economic standpoint which can make important contributions to regional stability and thus are very important parts of our dialogue in Asia. In the long run, however, despite the advantages of these bilateral contacts, we need to build mechanisms of cooperation on a multilateral basis to assure that the current favorable environment will endure. Thus, the third element of our strategy is to build a sound architecture for regional cooperation. The creation of the ASEAN Regional Forum is an important initial step in this process. This forum reflects what might be called the ASEAN way of doing things: consultation, consensus and cooperation. We see this forum and the emerging security dialogue in northeast Asia as crucial supplements to our alliances and to our forward military presence in the Asia-Pacific region. Next week in Brunei, I'll join my colleagues from 17 Asia-Pacific nations and the European Union for the second meeting of the ASEAN Regional Forum. We'll be discussing security challenges such as the North Korean nuclear issue and the importance of freedom of navigation. In this connection, let me emphasize that we've consistently urged the claimants to the resources in the Spratly Islands in the South China Sea to resolve their differences through dialogue and not through any military confrontation. These important but nascent efforts to build mechanisms for security cooperation in Asia complement the remarkable economic integration that the nations are in the process of achieving through APEC. These significant accomplishments are attributable in no small part to President Clinton's vision in convening the first ever APEC leaders' meeting two years ago in Seattle. Then last year in Bogor in Indonesia, the APEC leaders committed to achieve free trade in the Asia-Pacific region by the year 2020. And this year in the Osaka meeting of APEC in November, leaders will turn this historic vision from the Bogor Conference into a blueprint for action, a blueprint which should set forth the shared principles, specific goals, and a process for achieving them by 2020. The fourth and final element of our strategy is our steadfast support for human rights and democracy. Just as open markets and open sea lanes promote prosperity and security in the Pacific, so do open societies. Business people in Shanghai and in San Francisco may speak quite different languages, but they agree that enterprise survives and thrives best when ideas and information are freely exchanged. The experiences of many democracies across the region tell us that accountable government and the rule of law are the bedrock of stability and prosperity. On the other hand, the experiences of countries like Burma and North Korea tell us that repression only entrenches poverty. Open societies do make better neighbors. History shows us that the greatest threats to security in the Asia-Pacific region have come from governments that flout the rule of law at home and reject it abroad. On human rights issues, every nation must find its own way, consistent with its history and culture. But at the same time, all have a responsibility to meet international obligations and to respect the standards of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. America will continue to champion human rights in the movement toward open societies and we'll do so without arrogance but also without apologies. In this connection, we'll continue to assist countries that are embracing democracies -- new democracies such as Cambodia and Mongolia - - to assist them in the development of their political parties, to try to advise them on the development of their political institutions. In Burma, the efforts of the United States and the international community have helped to lead to the recent release of the imprisoned opposition leader, distinguished Nobel Prize winner, Aung San Suu Kyi. We welcome this step, but we believe that its true significance will depend ultimately on whether or not it represents a real movement toward the restoration of democratic government. I might say we're particularly interested in seeing movement toward an accountable government in Burma since it is the world's largest supplier of heroin. In sum, my trip to the region, starting tomorrow morning, will advance the four key elements of our Asia-Pacific strategy: reaffirmation of our alliances, engagement with Asia's leading powers, construction of an enduring mechanism for regional cooperation, and support for human rights and democracy. Taken together, these elements will advance our broad-ranging interests in a region that is so vital to both our security and prosperity. Together with our Asian friends, we've traveled an enormous distance since the end of the war in the Pacific half a century ago. American leadership and American engagement have been absolutely essential on that great journey. It will be no less so as we seek to shrink the distances that separate us and to create a promising Pacific future that all of us can profitably and securely share. Thank you very much. (Sustained applause) MODERATOR: Now comes the hard part, Sir, the questions. Let's start with Hanoi. How will you proceed if the move in Congress to block funds for an Embassy in Vietnam succeeds? SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: Now comes the interesting part. I don't expect it to succeed, frankly. I think there is bipartisan support for the farsighted step that President Clinton took. I believe that when the matter actually is focused on in Congress, they will recognize that the time has come to put our relationships with Vietnam on a new and better basis. They'll understand, as the President did, as I recommended, that our chance to improve our situation with respect to the POWs and MIAs, to move even beyond the favorable results we've already had, will be enhanced by normalizing our relationship, and that there are other important values to be promoted: relationships with respect to human rights, the rule of law, cooperation on narcotics trafficking, as well as economic cooperation. I believe in this very strongly and firmly, and I think that the Congress will too. I was struck by the strong bipartisan support that there was when the President made the announcement at the White House. QUESTION: Let's move on to Taiwan. Do your remarks mean that the Clinton Administration will prohibit President Lee of Taiwan to visit the United States again? SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: No. The answer is that it will not. As I said, his visit was a special circumstance. It was an unofficial visit. It was a private visit, and it was, I believe, the first time that he's been here in the United States. I think that it's important to understand the fundamental difference between the official relationship that we have with China and the unofficial relationship that we have, pursuant to the Taiwan Relations Act, with Taiwan. This carefully calculated, carefully drawn set of relationships has served all the parties very well. There's been great prosperity in Taiwan and a strong move towards democracy, and in China there has also been considerable economic progress and prosperity. The policy that I outlined in my remarks today is a regime that has served all of the parties, all the elements very well, and we should maintain it. We should carefully preserve it. QUESTION: In the light of China's recent military exercise off the northern coast of Taiwan, is China a threat to its neighbors, and has the U.S. made any contingency plan pursuant to the Taiwan Relations Act should China invade Taiwan? SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: As I said in my remarks, I think that it's desirable for peace and stability in the region for Taiwan and China and the United States to continue to follow the policies laid down in the three communiques and the Taiwan Relations Act. They have served all the parties very well, and I think that one of my main subjects of discussion with Foreign Minister Qian Qichen of China will be to emphasize that the United States has not changed its policy. We're not embarking on a new policy. The existing policy is working very well and for the interest of all parties. We think that there is no basis for threats between the parties. As a matter of fact, one of the things I'd like to emphasize here today is the importance of China and Taiwan working out the problems together. There have been discussions between them. Those discussions should continue. That's the way to resolve those problems, in dialogue and in peace. QUESTION: One more question on Taiwan. A committee on the Hill is scheduling hearings on U.N. membership with Taiwan. In your view, does Taiwan qualify for U.N. membership, and will the U. S. support such a course? SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: No easy questions today, are there? (Laughter) Membership in the United Nations is based upon, as I understand it, statehood, and United States will not support Taiwan's membership in the United Nations under current circumstances. That would be not consistent with the remarks I have made today, not consistent with the three communiques which I have summarized here, and, of course, which are well-known. QUESTION: Will the Clinton Administration order additional sanctions against China for supplying missile technology to Pakistan and Iran? SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: As I mentioned in my remarks, we are concerned about proliferation issues, and we are certainly concerned about it as they relate to South Asia. We monitor it very carefully and very closely. At the present time, although there is a fairly large body of evidence, we do not think there is the evidence there that would justify the imposition of sanctions. But I want to assure all that we feel an obligation to keep this matter carefully under review and to follow and comply with the law in this regard. QUESTION: You called for the prompt release of Harry Wu. What's your interpretation of the tape that was released by the Chinese Government? Is this a sign that having been humiliated and forced to confess, will he now be released, and how long are you prepared to wait for his release? SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: Well, with respect to the tape, it appears to have been a tape which was made by the Chinese, and I think we can all have some understanding of the conditions under which such a tape might have been made by Harry Wu. So I think there ought to be some skepticism about all the statements that are made on the tape. I don't think it is very useful here to treat this matter in a legalistic way. Harry Wu is a United States citizen, and we think that the most positive contribution to our relationships would be if China would promptly release him. We are urging his prompt release and I hope it will happen in the near future, although I don't want to make any predictions on that score, nor would I want to set any kind of a deadline. QUESTION: How concerned are you that Japan's banking crisis could mushroom into a worldwide financial crisis? SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: That's a good question for the Secretary of the Treasury. (Laughter) Where are you, Bob Rubin, when I need you? Not here, I guess. I'm not an expert on Japan's banking situation. I do know it is a matter of concern. You well remember, it was not too many years ago when the United States was concerned about the banking situation that arises when there are many property loans and the property turns out to be overvalued. The United States banks have come through that in a very strong way. I think our banking system has been strengthened by the steps that were taken at that time; and in my non-expert capacity, I would say that I hope that the Japanese banks will make a similar adjustment to the problem that faces them at the present time. QUESTION: Moving to Bosnia -- you knew you wouldn't get away without a few on Bosnia. Is the United States covertly helping or encouraging Muslim nations to supply arms to the Bosnian Government? SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: The United States is not, underline not, covertly supplying arms or supporting the supply of arms to the Bosnian Government. Let me say a few words by way of explanation. Under the Nunn-Mitchell Amendment to a recent statute, the United States no longer is in a position to enforce the United Nations embargo. At the same time, we are obligated by our commitment to the United Nations and our statutes to honor that embargo. So while we are not actively enforcing it any longer, pursuant to an Act of Congress, at the same time, we will honor it and we are not, to repeat myself, covertly supplying arms or taking steps to support arms. Stories in that respect are not accurate. QUESTION: After last week's decision to protect the safe area of Gorazde with airstrikes, the Bosnian Serbs predictably shifted their offensive to other areas. Will the allies use airstrikes to protect Sarajevo and other safe areas? SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: When we met in London last week -- that is, the Foreign Ministers of the l6 countries involved in this, the troop- supplying countries and other involved -- the most direct threat at that time was to Gorazde. It looked like it would be the next target for the Bosnian Serbs. It was the third of the enclaves; indeed, at that time threats had been made by General Mladic that he would take Gorazde. So I think it was natural for us last Friday -- and was it only a week ago that we met in London? -- that a decision was taken that if there was an attack on Gorazde it would be met resolutely by an air campaign, and we took a number of steps that would make such an air campaign possible. We also at that time though recognized that there might be threats to other enclaves, and we talked at that time about applying the Goradze techniques to the other enclaves. When NATO acted last Tuesday, I believe it was, they indicated that they felt the Gorazde techniques could be adapted to the other enclaves. They're all slightly different; they all face slightly different threats. You look at Bihac and you see the five various vectors of force that are coming in on Bihac at the present time -- obviously quite a different thing than drawing the line at Gorazde. Early this morning I talked to Secretary General Willy Claes of the United Nations as to the progress that they were making in applying the Gorazde techniques to the other safe areas. He told me that the military experts had substantially completed their work. He assured me that the Military Committee would be meeting over this weekend to consider the recommendation from the military experts -- that is, the NATO military experts -- on how best to apply the Gorazde techniques to Bihac and other safe areas, and that the North Atlantic Council was available to meet next Monday on that subject. So I can tell you that NATO is moving resolutely to consider the other safe areas and how the new Gorazde procedures might be applied there. I can also tell you that it won't be simple but that there's a determination to ensure that the Serb advance is met by the new techniques, the new resolution that was decided on last Friday in London. QUESTION: Thank you. We're running very close on the time, but let me ask you one quick question. When will the Mideast signing take place, and when will Syria sign on to the peace process? SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: You mean just a couple of simple questions. QUESTION: Yes, just a simple question. (Laughter) SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: I assume the first question refers to the signing of the second phase of the Declaration of Principles between Israel and the Palestinians. Those discussions were nearing a conclusion when I think they were somewhat knocked off track by the suicide bombing in Tel Aviv -- another desperate effort of those who are trying to derail the peace process. The parties are going back into negotiations after a brief hiatus for mourning the, I believe it was, six who were killed. They're going back into negotiations next Monday. They have some difficult issues yet to resolve, but my information is that they are relatively close to resolution; and I hope they'll conclude them soon and there could be a signing in the near future. They've quite understandably taken the position that with the complexity of the issues -- trying to apply what basically were the techniques of Gaza and Jericho to the rest of the West Bank -- that that has turned out to be a very difficult exercise -- the redeployments, the election, and the broadening of the powers to all of the West Bank. It's more important to get it right than it is to do it on any deadline date. I hope the signing will be soon, but I particularly hope that it will be done in a way that resolves the problems and ensures that they can move forward from that point. With respect to the Syrian track -- that was the other part of the question, wasn't it, Bud? QUESTION: Right. SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: The two parties have got some very difficult security issues before them now. The two Ambassadors may be meeting in the very near future to begin to address those issues. The two Chiefs of Staff, as you know, met here a couple months ago; and those were, I think, meetings that moved the process forward. Rather than giving you too much detail, let me just emphasize that I think both parties are serious about making progress. They're big decisions for both parties. They reflect their fundamental security issues. I think they both also understand that the clock is ticking and they need to accelerate their process. (VOA transmission terminated.)To the top of this page