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APRIL 5, 1995

                         U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
                           DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

                                 I N D E X

                         Wednesday, April 5, 1995

                                       Briefer:  Christine Shelly

   Vote by House International Affairs Committee to
     permit President Li to visit the U.S...............1

   Letter from European Parliament re: execution of
     Nick Ingrum in Georgia.............................1

   Visit of Prime Minister Bhutto.......................1
   Modification/Interpretation of the Pressler.....
     Amendment .........................................1-2
   --Release of F-16 aircraft...........................2
   --Discussions between President Clinton and.....
       Prime Minister Bhutto............................2-3
   Possibility of a meeting between Secretary......
     Christopher and the Prime Minister.................3

   Agenda of meeting between Turkish Foreign
     Minister and Secretary Christopher.................3

   Export of computer program "Satan"...................3-4

   Congressional testimony..............................4

   Scheduled visit by Polish authorities to
     detained Amcits....................................4-5

   Framework Agreement -- Resumption of Berlin
   --Linkage of implementation of the Framework
       Agreement to concessions.........................5
   Site visit to view properties for liaison office ....5-6
   --Timing for opening of liaison office...............6-7

   Ukrainian Parliament's vote of no confidence in
     the Ukrainian government...........................7
   --Effect of vote on President Kuchma's reform
   --Effect on U.S.-Ukrainian relations.................7


DPC #45

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 5, 1995, 12:59 P.M.

MS. SHELLY: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I don't have any announcements or earth-shaking pronouncements to make at the top of the briefing, so I'll be happy to go directly to your questions.

Q The House International Affairs Committee today voted on a resolution to allow President Li of Taiwan to come into the country to visit his alma mater. Do you have anything new on that?

MS. SHELLY: Our position is well known and unchanged.


Q Apparently some members of Parliament are sending a petition over to the U.S. Embassy on the Ingrum case. Has anything been forwarded to the State Department? Do you have any comment?

MS. SHELLY: Not that I have seen so far. I have heard that there might be something coming, which I think reflects the view of the European Parliament toward capital punishment. I think there is an honest dispute with the European Parliament on this point. As we have not seen anything come over yet, I'll have to take a look and see what it has to say before we can make a more formal comment.

Q The Pakistani Prime Minister arrived this morning and tomorrow and the day after she is going to be meeting with the House and Senate Foreign Relations Committee people.

According to Senator Hank Brown, the Administration hasn't put forward any kind of a proposal as an alternative interpretation of the Pressler Amendment so far, either in writing or otherwise. Could you comment on that?

MS. SHELLY: Our position on the Pressler Amendment, I think, is very well known. One of the major points of our policy, of course, is to reduce the risks of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction on the sub-continent.

The Pressler Amendment, of course, is the law. It affects the kind of relationship that we have with Pakistan.

We are trying to find ways within the constraints of the law to build a stronger relationship with Pakistan, but we certainly intend to preserve the non-proliferation aims of that amendment.

We will be discussing this issue with Congress. I don't have any specifics to offer you at this time. But as to any possible other issues related to it, any outcome or understandings that we might seek with the U.S. Congress, of course, will need to be consistent with our continuing high priority on non-proliferation goals in all of south Asia.

Q Does that mean any kind of change in the interpretation of Pressler? If it's not going to be repealed, is it going to be interpreted differently? Are you finding some way to deal with the whole issue of OPIC functioning in Pakistan and the delivery of the F- 16s?

MS. SHELLY: If there was going to be some kind of a caliberation in the interpretation of that amendment, I think that's something that we would embark upon in a quiet way with the U.S. Congress to see whether or not there was a meeting of the minds. But I don't have anything to announce in that regard for you today.

Q How are you doing on the F-16s?

MS. SHELLY: On the F-16s, of course, this is an issue that has come up from time to time because the Pressler Amendment specifically precludes the delivery of 28 F-16s which Pakistan had previously purchased.

Release of these aircraft, I'm told, would require a change in the legislation. So that's an issue that if it were to go forward, we would certainly have to discuss with the U.S. Congress. To go beyond the theoretical requirement of doing that, I think, would not be appropriate for me at this time and would get off into speculation.

Q Christine, in a quiet way you're going to be discussing with Congress. Does that mean there's going to be no major statement by the President and Prime Minister Bhutto on this whole issue?

MS. SHELLY: That's totally off my screen. It would not be appropriate for me to try to preview what the President would be likely to say and do in his meeting with the Pakistan Prime Minister.

Q Does Mr. Christopher plan to see her before he leaves on vacation?

MS. SHELLY: I'll have to check on the scheduling point. Let me check on that. I'm sorry. David (Johnson), do you know? Is there a separate meeting with the Secretary -- with the Prime Minister of Pakistan?

MR. JOHNSON: I don't know.

MS. SHELLY: I don't know either. We'll check on that point.

Q The Turkish Foreign Minister, Mr. Inonu, meets Mr. Christopher today. What will be on the agenda of the U.S. side at this talk which will take place today -- afternoon?

MS. SHELLY: I think it would be all of the usual subjects that we discuss with Turkey. As there is actually a photo opportunity and the opportunity to ask questions in connection with that meeting, I don't think it would be wise for me to try to preview that at this point. The press will have an opportunity to put some questions, and after the meeting, of course, is over, we'll be happy to try to get you the usual readout.

Q Christine, a computer question. Apparently something has been put out on the --

MS. SHELLY: My strong area of expertise here.

Q Mine, too. Something has been put out on the InterNet, which because it deals with computer encryption and is therefore being circulated internationally by virtue of being on the InterNet, may involve the State Department. Do you have any information on that?

MS. SHELLY: I have just a little bit on that. We were checking this morning. This is, of course, this computer program called "Satan," which as you've referenced is about to be released on the InterNet.

In general, cryptographic software with the capability of maintaining secrecy or confidentiality of information or information systems is covered by Category XIII(B)(1) of the U.S. Munitions List.

As an item on the Munitions List, such cryptographic software would be subject to the controls of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations -- that's the ITAR regime -- and could not be exported without State Department approval.

Whether the software in question would be covered by the International Traffic in Arms Regulations could only come from a determination of the analysis of the program.

I don't really have any other information on that at this point. If we get anymore on that, I'll certainly be happy to try to share that with you.

Is that it? I'm in competition for the shortest briefing ever. I have to nose out David Johnson on this point, I think.

Q All right, Christine --

MS. SHELLY: I wasn't really trying to stimulate questions! (Laughter) I think it's really nice of you to be willing to step forward and raise your hand. It's okay, I won't feel wounded.

Q Christine, on the issue in Rwanda, the reports are that the exodus that was in progress has been halted. What's the latest that you have? What guidance do you have to share with us on that situation?

MS. SHELLY: The guidance that I have to share with you on that situation is that there's testimony on that today, so --

Q No guidance.

MS. SHELLY: Ambassador Townsend Friedman, our Special Coordinator for Rwanda, and Arlene Render, the Director, Office of Central African Affairs, will be testifying this afternoon at 2:00 o'clock. It's a joint hearing of the House and Senate Subcommittees on African Affairs on both Rwanda and Burundi.

As this hearing begins at 2:00 and as that is open testimony -- in fact I can't really move the ball on that one. So I'm following our usual pattern of sort of taking things off the screen that are being testified on in the current day.

Q Do you have anything on the Americans in Iraq?

MS. SHELLY: I have only a very little bit of information on that, which is basically that we understand that another visit with the two detained Americans by the Polish protecting power is scheduled for today. We have no word yet on whether or not the visit took place.

We will certainly try to get information on that once we can confirm that it has occurred, and get it to you as fast as we can.

Q Christine, any date for the North Korean talks to resume?

MS. SHELLY: Not yet.

Q Can you say anything more about why it's taking so long?

MS. SHELLY: Not really. As you know, we're still in the consultation mode on this with our key allies, and I certainly still expect that they will be resumed in April and in the not-too-distant future, but still no announcement on that.

Q You sound a little less sure than you were the other day, though.

MS. SHELLY: Oh, bad choice of words. I'm not trying to be less sure.

Q We're still in a pause?

MS. SHELLY: Well, pause -- you know, the -- remember, I never called it a "break." It's just in the pause for consultations. But nothing -- I don't have anything new on that.

Q Christine, there has been some speculation that North Korea may (inaudible) South Korean light-water reactor if the U.S. would (inaudible) further concessions, such as signing a peace treaty or further -- whatever -- reducing troop strength in South Korea. And what would be the U.S. response to this?

MS. SHELLY: It sounds sort of off-the-wall to me. This is an issue that is going to be worked on in its own merits in the context of the Agreed Framework. It's not something that we would support the notion of linkage to either of the other issues that you've described.

Q Christine, can you confirm that as you had announced the other day, the North Korean site visit went forward today?

MS. SHELLY: As far as I know. This was to begin today, running from today through Friday, with two officials of the DPRK mission to the U.N. in New York coming down to Washington to look at properties for a liaison office.

The North Koreans are going to be meeting with officials of the Bureau of East Asian and Pacific Affairs and also the Office of Foreign Missions. I'm told that they're going to be looking at commercial and residential properties which would be available for lease.

Q Have these meetings taken place, or is this later this afternoon?

MS. SHELLY: I don't know what time they were expected to start, but my checking in on this this morning certainly still left me with the impression it was going forward beginning today.

Q So even though there's a pause and there seems to be less certainty about when the negotiations will resume, this site visit and other aspects of this agreement are going forward?

MS. SHELLY: There was never any specific linkage regarding the pace at which any of the other elements would go forward. As you know, there is the target date for the LWR process. Again, it's not a deadline, it's a target date.

Your characterization there's less certainty is yours and not mine. Simply because of the amount of press interest that there is in this, we simply -- at least it's my impression from our practice here, that we tend to make the announcements when we're resuming and things like that, we make them fairly close to the time that that's actually happening.

So I know of nothing to suggest that the time frame that we outlined before, which was to have a resumption in the talks in Berlin, it's sort of the continuation of the same phase. I'm still expecting that we'll have something to announce on that before too long, but it's simply that we have not finished the consultation phase and so therefore I'm not in a position to do that today.

Q But isn't it possible that -- is it conceivable that the United States and North Korea would agree and open liaison offices before an agreement is reached on light-water reactors?

MS. SHELLY: I think as a practical matter the process on the liaison office is not that far along that I would expect that to happen. So where -- as I said there's no sort of formal time frame that something on one track has to specifically happen before progress on another, nonetheless, I think in order for all of the elements of the Agreed Framework to reach their full potential, all of these things, of course, will have to go forward, but we recognize that they won't necessarily proceed at the same pace.

Q Does the current crisis in the Ukraine Government -- does this imperil the democratic process in the Ukraine?

MS. SHELLY: Is this specifically about the "no-confidence" motion for the government?

Q Right, the dismissal of the Cabinet and the dispute between Kuchma and the Parliament.

MS. SHELLY: I don't have a lot of details on that, but let me share with you what I do have. According to press accounts and other information that we have received from our Embassy in Kiev, on April 4, as a result of a long-planned vote of confidence in the government, the Ukrainian Parliament dismissed President Kuchma's Cabinet of ministers over what it charged was the government's failure to implement reform plans.

We have no reason to believe that the Parliament's vote represents a threat to President Kuchma's reform agenda, but we remain confident that this will not affect the growing partnership between Ukraine and the United States, which we are in the process of building.

In his State of the Nation speech which followed the vote, President Kuchma underscored the need to proceed quickly with the implementation of his reform program.

Q Thank you.

MS. SHELLY: Thanks.

(The briefing concluded at 1:14 p.m.)


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