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September 12, 1994
                     U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
                      DAILY PRESS BRIEFING
                           I N D E X
                   Monday, September, 12 1994
                     Briefers:  Warren Christopher
                                Michael McCurry
   Statement by Secretary Christopher ..........1-3
   Departure of Military Leaders ...............3-4,9-10
   UN/US Objectives ............................3
   Countries Participating in Multinational
     Force .....................................4-8
   --  Size/Composition of Force ...............4-8
   Administration's Consultation with Congress .6-7
   Secretary's Proposed Visit to Region ........5
   President Assad's Speech to Parliament ......5
   Discussions with US .........................10-11
   Status of US IAEA Inspections ...............11


DPC #128


MR. McCURRY: Good afternoon everybody. Welcome to the State Department's daily briefing. A very special guest attraction today. I thought it would be helpful if the Secretary of State could give you an update on some of the diplomatic efforts underway related to Haiti.

So we will start with Secretary Christopher. I will then be available for questions on other parts of the world, unless you want to let me off easy today.

Without further ado, Secretary of State Warren Christopher.

SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: Good afternoon. What I wanted to do was to simply give you an update on our efforts to put together a multinational coalition to implement United Nations Security Council Resolution 940. Our recruitment efforts are showing good success.

Since the decision of CARICOM to commit troops which was taken on the 30th of August, we've been working hard in contacting other nations regarding their possible participation. The President, the Vice President, and myself and others have contacted a number of other countries.

I can now tell you that 17 nations have agreed to participate in the multinational coalition. Discussion of the nature and extent of this participation and our contacts with other countries are still on-going, but we've already got commitments of roughly 1,500 troops from other nations. That is, conservative numbers, 1,500 troops from 17 nations.

I expect that the number of countries and the number of non-U.S. personnel will grow over the next several days as we continue our contacts.

These commitments are certainly a strong indication of the resolve within the international community to join us in seeking the restoration of democracy in Haiti. We are proud to be leading this coalition, and we're very grateful for the support of the other nations in this coalition effort.

These commitments, of course, reflect the spirit of U.N. Resolution 940, which is an indication of the attitudes and the consensus of the international community, that we must use all necessary means to restore democracy in Haiti.

If I can just take a moment to remind your listeners and viewers of the important United States interests involved here. As you know, in 1990, the first, free and open election in over 200 years was held in Haiti. But unhappily only nine months later that government was overthrown by a military dictatorship. At that time, the prior Administration denounced this overthrow in very strong terms.

Then-President Bush indicated that this overthrow was an exceptional threat to the national security, foreign policy and the economy of the United States. One of my predecessors, James Baker, made a very strong speech to the Organization of American States saying that this coup should not and would not be permitted to continue.

Since then, since coming into office, we have used a broader array of diplomatic means and sanctions in an effort to overturn this illegal government but without success to the present time.

The stakes for the United States are very considerable here. The progress toward democracy in his hemisphere is a much-admired event but democracy is fragile, especially the new democracies in this hemisphere are fragile. And I think unless we take some steps to restore democracy in Haiti, we send exactly the wrong signal.

This government that has overthrown the legitimate government has been repressive in the extreme. The human rights violations have been almost unspeakable; as you know, in recent days, the murder of Father Vincent and the disappearance of a number of the orphans in Haiti, apparently only because President Aristide had shown an interest in their well-being.

These human rights violations and other matters have produced a flood of refugees which has been very destabilizing in the Caribbean region and threatens to destabilize the hemisphere as a whole. So we have very strong stakes here in restoring the legitimate government in Haiti, and we will work hard to do so.

I would encourage the illegal regime to leave immediately. I think that's the rational choice for them to make, if they're thinking about it carefully at all, because the time is growing very short.

I'll just take a few questions this morning.

Q This has been a long campaign, and it's obviously reaching a crisis point. Is there anything coming back from the other side -- any sort of a signal that may not be evident to us?

After all, when you dealt with Bosnia, Milosevic at least bobbed and weaved. Are you getting anything from the other side that suggests they're getting your message?


Q Mr. Secretary, what are the criteria for a successful military intervention in Haiti?

SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: The criteria would be the removal of the illegal government, the restoration of civil law, and giving the Haitian people an opportunity to have the kind of freely elected government that they chose in 1990. That's the fundamental issue. That's fundamentally what we're trying to achieve there, to give them the opportunity that they deserve and that they won in 1990 but was seized from them, stolen from them by this illegal government.

Q A follow-up. Would it be to rebuild the institutions in the country or build them as we did in Somalia? And what would happen if the triumvirate now ruling Haiti were to go into hiding somewhere in Haiti? Would it be our job to search them out?

SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: Let me take the second part of that first. Our present demand is that they leave the country? That is in the terms of Resolution 940 of the United Nations Security Council. So we're insisting at the present time that they leave office and leave the country.

But if it's necessary to have a military intervention -- and they're still in office and we find them there, we encounter them -- we would detain them and turn them over to the legitimate government of Haiti, which would be installed at that time.

The aim of this multinational coalition, the aim of the United States here is not to be involved in nation- building but to give the people of Haiti an opportunity to build their institutions, to reclaim their country, and have that opportunity with respect to the building of their own institutions.

There will be a strong multinational effort to assist them in doing so. As you know, there was a conference in Paris the other day which brought forward very considerable commitments to assist in a financial way the people of Haiti to build their institutions.

Q Mr. Secretary, would the U.S. Government be willing to facilitate the departure by giving them transportation and guaranteeing them some haven some place else? And have you made such an offer to them?

SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: If they give us an indication that they're prepared to go, I'm sure that arrangements can be worked out for their departure pursuant to the United Nations Security Council resolution. I think that's certainly been made clear to them publicly. I do so now, if it has not been prior to this time.

Q Mr. Secretary, does the training required for the increasing number of troops from other countries you announced today set back the timetable for invasion?

SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: There's been no timetable announced or set. I would say that the additional troops that have been pledged will not slow us down in any event. I do not see that that would be an occasion for delay.

Q Mr. Secretary, when you talk about 1,500 troops from 17 countries -- you said their precise duties are still being worked out -- can you give us an idea just what part of this operation they will participate in? In the initial MFN intervention force? In the police monitoring that takes place before the arrival of the peacekeeping force of the U.N., or as part of the U.N. peacekeeping operation?

SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER: John, these are primarily military and police personnel. Many of them would participate only after a secure environment has been achieved by the multinational force, but they would be part of the multinational force. They would be part of the first phase.

After I leave the podium here and after Mike (McCurry) gives you the Daily Briefing, I think we'll have available, On Background, an indication of the countries involved and the nature of the forces that have been pledged.

I thought I would come down to tell you that by now we have reached the level of 17 countries and 1,500 troops.

Thanks very much.

MR. McCURRY: We'll move on to other areas, but before I do I would like to acknowledge the presence today of Prince Phinda, who's the Minister of Broadcasting and Information and Tourism for Swaziland; also Ben Amathila, the Minister of Information and Broadcasting in Namibia, who's accompanied by Ambassador Kalomoh, the Ambassador of Namibia to the United States. Very nice to have you here, and it's a pleasure to welcome you to the State Department.

To move on to other areas, Barry?

Q On the subject of the Middle East, wherein there seems to be some movement to accommodation between Israel and Syria, at least on a logistic effort, let me ask you: Has the U.S. assisted, is the U.S. succeeding, in getting Perez and Shara together; and what about the Secretary's travel plans, which Israel radio announced as being deferred until October?

MR. McCURRY: Well, on the first question, I'm not aware that there are any plans for such a meeting.

On the second question, I don't have any specific dates on projected travel, by the Secretary. He's indicated he would like to go to the region soon. Given that Jewish High Holy Days and the schedule that he's got at the United Nations when the U.N. General Assembly meets at the end of the month, I suspect that "soon" might mean October.

But on the larger question, obviously, we welcome Syria's continued commitment to the peace process. President Assad's speech, which triggered some of the stories that you're referring to -- his speech to the Parliament -- reaffirmed that Syria has made the strategic choice for peace with Israel that they have discussed on prior occasions; and the President reaffirmed as well his serious about making progress. So our interest is to assist the parties in making that progress because it's clear that a great deal of work remains to be done.

Q Will you be active now?

MR. McCURRY: Well, we --

Q You're always there, sort of, in some degree of activity or other. Are we at a point where the two -- we're hearing the public diplomacy, of course; and I assume they have their own private diplomacy going on. What is the U.S. doing at this point?

MR. McCURRY: We are facilitating the progress that we would like the parties to make. That generally involves the trips that the Secretary himself makes to the region and then the likely trips that he will make coming up, but it also includes the ongoing contact that members of our peace team may have with the parties as they wrestle with very contentious issues.

Q Mike, could you take a Haiti question, please?

MR. McCURRY: Sure. Then I'll pass the buck to someone else.

Q The Secretary was saying that there is international help and other countries of pledging troops, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of interest in it in this country. Can you tell me what this Department is doing to try and involve Congress in this decision?

MR. McCURRY: Well, not only is this Department and the Secretary himself, but the President and others began very close consultations with members of Congress. We continue to press very publicly the assertion of the U.S. interests that are at stake with Haiti. As you saw just moments ago, the Secretary was here to make an important statement about Haiti today; and you will likely see more of that as the days come. The importance of engaging the American people in dealing with their elected representatives in the United States Congress is something that the President and the Administration acknowledges.


Q Mike, do these briefings include closed briefings of the leadership? Is something like that planned either today or tomorrow, or are you sticking to telephone consultations -- and, if so, why?

MR. McCURRY: Well, I'll have to check and see about the program of consultation. I believe there have been a number of people who have been on the Hill. Congress has been out, and one House will only be here shortly before they take a break for the Jewish High Holy Days. So we're doing the consultation as best we can, given the availability both of the Administration decision-makers and members of Congress.


Q Following on that, Senator Dole said yesterday that Secretary Perry called and asked to see him tomorrow, but he said that up to now all he's had is a ten-minute courtesy call from Bill Gray.

MR. McCURRY: I'd have to check and see, but there's been a variety of Administration --

Q He's quite right that there's been nothing that he would regard as consultation at all.

MR. McCURRY: Well, there have been a variety of consultations. I think as you heard the Secretary say yesterday, no fewer than -- I believe he said -- 75 times have members of this Administration consulted with members of Congress and the leadership of Congress on the important issue of Haiti.

Q Have you all precluded going to Congress for approval of an invasion? I understand what your position is -- that you don't have to.

MR. McCURRY: At this --

Q I wonder whether it's been precluded.

MR. McCURRY: I think the Secretary was very clear on that point yesterday on a nationally televised program when he talked about the prerogatives of the Executive Branch and the need for the Commander-in-Chief to be able to lead the U.S. military forces, depending on what contingencies develop.

Q The answer is "Yes"?

MR. McCURRY: I think that the Secretary answered the question yesterday.


Q Can you break down the troops and countries? Do you have some way you can do that?

MR. McCURRY: We'll do that on BACKGROUND. It will be a little easier, I think, if we run through the whole list on BACKGROUND.

Q Can we get one thing ON THE RECORD? Will the first wave be entirely American, as it's been before you balloon to l7?

MR. McCURRY: It would be overwhelmingly U.S.; but there will be some people who can tell a little bit about how, during Phase I envisioned by U.N. Security Resolution 940, it would actually work. There are countries that are participating among the l7 that have got special expertise on police training, equipping police --

Q You're talking "phase," I'm talking "wave." There's a difference.

MR. McCURRY: In phase -- the first wave, I think, would be overwhelmingly U.S., as we've indicated in the past.


Q And how many U.S. troops are you envisioning in this?

MR. McCURRY: Deputy Secretary Deutch said here recently l0,000. He used that figure. But I believe military planners at the Pentagon will adjust and size of the force according to the mission established by the Commander-in-Chief, if and when the orders are given for an invasion.

Q So, basically, l0 percent is non-American?

MR. McCURRY: Well, at the moment we have commitments from l7 countries for l500, and the size of the force eventually will be determined according to those who are planning whatever mission develops for the multinational force. We can't set a percentage until we know what the total size of the force would be.


Q Is there going to be, as far as this Administration is concerned, some type of emissaries going down to Port-au-Prince with an ultimatum, or was that what Mr. Christopher was doing here?

MR. McCURRY: Well, there very clearly was an ultimatum that the Secretary has just issued and others have issued publicly; but the President will consider other options to deliver the messages most effectively, and those decisions are ones that he will take as we proceed through what has been described as the "end game" here.

Q Are you satisfied with this level of international commitment -- l7 nations, l500 troops? That averages out to less than l00 troops per country.

MR. McCURRY: Well, it's important that they're offering special expertise in given areas. Some countries can assist, most importantly, with the policing function. There will be other types of personnel that each of these countries can offer; and, as the Secretary indicated, we are very grateful of that level of support, and we expect that it will grow in coming days.

Q But it doesn't seem to indicate any overwhelming international support for what you're contemplating.

MR. McCURRY: I believe there's overwhelming international support for U.S. Security Council Resolution 940, which sets the parameters for this end game regarding Haiti.


Q The Secretary, in a response today, changed the answer that he gave yesterday on the question of whether Cedras and company have to leave the country or merely step down from office. Is there any --

MR. McCURRY: I didn't hear him change it. I think amplified on it. What's the question?

Q Is there any wiggle room there? Is there any possibility that they could negotiate a departure from office that would allow them to remain inside Haiti?

MR. McCURRY: No. The Secretary indicated that if they are still there and in place when the multinational force enters, they would be subject to detention by presumably U.S. military authorities and then would eventually be delivered to the duly constituted legal government of Haiti.

Q Sort of an amendment to what I think was Sid's question. I asked the Secretary if he had heard anything from the other side indicating they'd received a signal. He said, "Not yet." Is there anything in play now where you have some expectation, slow as it might be? Is there anything out there besides this public diplomacy? Are you working anything behind the scenes? Were you waiting for a reply that might divert this operation?

MR. McCURRY: Well, in a variety of ways, mostly public, that message is going directly to General Cedras, and it's up to them to work whatever plans for departure that they may wish to make. It is available to them; the arrangements can be made. But, barring those arrangements, they face the international force that will be there to carry out the will of the international community as expressed in the appropriate resolution of the United Nations.

Q Would you have any third country in there making your case?

MR. McCURRY: I am not going to get into those types of discussions, if there are any. The General and the other leaders of the military know exactly what they need to do to comply with the terms of this resolution, and the short and simple answer is that they've got to get out of the way so that democracy can be returned.


Q Correct me if I'm wrong. The Governors Island Accord, which you all might not even work from any more, called for political amnesty for Cedras and all of this folks. So is that out the door now? The Governors Island Accord has been violated so it's not even a guideline for the U.N.?

MR. McCURRY: Well, there was amnesty to be declared by the Haitian Parliament. That would be up to the Haitian Parliament and to the duly elected government, once it's returned rightfully to office.

Q Didn't you convince Aristide to make a public announcement that you would grant amnesty to -- ?

MR. McCURRY: That was all part of the sequence envisioned, yes. All part of the sequence envisioned by the Governor's Island Accord, which was abrogated by General Cedras and the other leaders in the military, so it is mostly a moot point.

Q Mike, perhaps to put it somewhat crassly, but this Administration presumably would rather spend a few mil to make these people comfortable on the Riviera with Baby Doc than to spend half a billion on an invasion.

MR. McCURRY: Well, we are always interested in saving the U.S. taxpayer money and operating efficiently, but I don't think that this is a calculation or a decision that would be made based on the size of the U. S. Treasury. I think this is something that we have to act consistent with U. S. national interests, and we'll take those steps accordingly.

Any other subject before we go on? We've got some background.

Q Another subject. Could I ask about Korea?


Q What do you hear about the talks in Berlin and Pyongyang?

MR. McCURRY: That they are occurring. Not much more than that.

They have got -- they are still a team that is led by Gary Seymours in Berlin, and they have got a range of discussions going on about some of the technical matters related to the reactor and other questions like "What are reactors," the provision of such technology. They will probably be underway for a number of days.

I believe the talks in Pyongyang are on how you would establish a liaison office or how that process might be envisioned if there were to be a successful overall resolution of the nuclear issue.

Those talks are a little bit ahead. Chronologically I think they might conclude very shortly, and I wouldn't be surprised if the two sides make some type of statement when they do. But I don't believe that has occurred yet.

Again, reminding that these are expert level talks designed to help the lead negotiator for the United States, Ambassador Gallucci, have a firm understanding with his counterpart of what the factual basis for their negotiations are, when the actual negotiations resume on September 23rd.

Q Ambassador Gallucci, is he now in Seoul or on his way?

MR. McCURRY: No, he is -- he will be on his way. I believe he is expected there -- the l4th to the l6th, he will be in Seoul to continue discussions that we have already had, obviously. Foreign Minister Han was here last week. We have had extensive discussions with him already, but Ambassador Gallucci will be in Seoul the l4th to the l6th.

Q Is he going to Tokyo?

MR. McCURRY: I believe he is going to Tokyo then before he goes on to Geneva.

Q What indications do you have that North Korea is giving more leeway perhaps to international inspectors or is open to that idea?

MR. McCURRY: I don't know that we have any indications of that. We haven't heard any change in the status of the IAEA safeguards presence at the Yongbyon facility as reported to us by the IAEA.


Q Do you have any other information about the plutonium seizure in Germany at this point?

MR. McCURRY: No, I don't. We are aware of press accounts and trying to get some more information, but nothing yet.


Q Have you -- has this Government received a visa application from Gerry Adams?

MR. McCURRY: I forgot to check this morning. I'm not aware of one, and there hadn't been one as far as I know over the weekend. There have been various people suggesting that one might be made, but I didn't check this morning. I should have, whether he's made one, but I'll check that as a question. We'll see if we've had one filed.

Q Have you invited a unionist delegation to come to Washington?

MR. McCURRY: Not that I'm aware of. I'll check on that, as long as I'm checking on the other.

Okay. We'll proceed now. We've got some folks here who will be on background, so cameras out. The action continues in a different place, different venue. This is just to go through some of the details, as the Secretary announced.

Thank you.

(The briefing concluded at 1:12 p.m.)


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