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                                       BRIEFER:  Christine Shelly

Subject                                                          Page

Status of Haynes Mahoney ......................................1

Response to US Proposals Still Pending ..........1-2

US Aid 

Penalties for Diplomats Not Paying 
  Parking Fines 

Travel Warning re:  Salman Rushdie ...................4

Prime Minister's Meetings in Washington ........4-5
--  Prospects for Resignation/US View ...........4-6
Effectiveness of Sanctions ....................................7

Results of Trilateral Committee on Economic
  Development Meeting in the Department ........6-7


                             DEPARTMENT OF STATE
                             DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

                                               DPC #155

                    WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 1, 1993, 1:11 P.M.

          MS. SHELLY:  Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.  I don't 
have any announcements to make so I'd be pleased to proceed directly to 
taking your questions.

          Q    In Yemen, I understand that the government is not 
interested in meeting the demands of the kidnappers, and I wonder if you 
still believe that Mr. Mahoney will be released shortly?

          MS. SHELLY:  I have very little for you really on that.  We 
remain confident that the Yemeni authorities are doing all that they can 
to obtain Mr. Mahoney's release.

          We remain in close contact with the Interior Minister and with 
other Yemeni officials.

          We have received more messages from Mr. Mahoney indicating 
that he remains in good health and in good spirits.  But as to any other 
factors related to his release and what is happening in those 
negotiations, I cannot speculate on that.

          Q    So you are still confident that he will be released 

          MS. SHELLY:  We urge that he be released immediately.

          Q    And when you say more messages, this is beyond the tape 
that you talked about yesterday?

          MS. SHELLY:  That's correct.

          Q    Can you say anything about the nature or the content of 
these messages?

          MS. SHELLY:  I don't have any information on that.

          Q    Can I ask about North Korea, please?

          MS. SHELLY:  Sure.

          Q    Do you have anything further -- informal or  formal -- 
from North Korea, or any further reading on the statements of yesterday?

          MS. SHELLY:  I really don't.  The public statements are 
obviously continuing to come out.  We take note of what's in them; but, 
as I said yesterday, we still are waiting for an official response.  
Nothing has happened on that score.  No plans for any meetings at 
present, and I really don't have anything to add beyond yesterday.

          Q    Is there any indication of when you might get something 
from them in New York?

          MS. SHELLY:  I honestly don't have any idea.

          Q    Do you have anything further on Nicaragua?

          MS. SHELLY:  On Nicaragua?

          Q    Yes.

          MS. SHELLY:  Nothing really in particular.  As you know, the 
President made his announcement on this yesterday and it was followed up 
by a statement on U.S. assistance which put this in some context.

          I think there really is very little that I can add to this 
statement that we issued on this yesterday.  I think basically the 
statement stands on its own.

          Q    Can this be seen as a change in U.S. policy, as an 
increase in the level of our support for President Chamorro?

          MS. SHELLY:  I think the reasons for taking this decision now 
were made fairly clear both by the President and in our statement.  So I 
don't want to get into any kind of characterization about changes.

          Q    Is the State Department going to deny diplomatic plates 
to countries that do not pay up on their parking tickets?

          MS. SHELLY:  I have something for you on that.  If I can just 
take a moment -- you're referring to The New York Times story on this, 
in particular?  Okay.  If I can just take a minute to sort of go through 
where we are on that.

          The Department has not yet received New York's formal 
proposal.  We've been guided by a draft plan which was provided by the 
city last year.  We believe that the city's program represented in that 
draft is fair and reasonable both to the city and to the diplomatic 
community.  We're prepared to lend our full support to that program.

          The basis upon which the Department would be prepared to 
withhold registrations in support of the city's program is  something 
that would still need to be worked out with the city once we receive 
their formal proposal.

          An important aspect, though, of the Department's plan in 
support of the city's enforcement program would be to deny registration 
or renewal of registration to vehicles with parking fines outstanding in 
excess of one year.

          As I'm sure you know, we have a similar kind of program that's 
been going on in Washington on this.

          The Department, early in 1993, submitted its proposal to the 
District of Columbia on this.  We are now working with them to reach the 
final details on the formal plan.  We expect that this will also, like 
the New York plan, include denial of registrations or renewals on 
approximately the same basis as in New York, and that this would go into 
effect in early 1994.

          Q    And it would just be those two cities?

          MS. SHELLY:  My understanding for the moment is that it's just 
these two cities which have embarked upon an effort to try to deal with 
the problem.  I don't have any information on any other cities at the 

          Q    Have you seen an increase in the number of countries 
paying up their fines in light of the Washington program?

          MS. SHELLY:  I don't actually have the numbers on that.  I can 
endeavor to get a response for you on that and see if I can post 
something this afternoon.  I know there was some movement once the 
District of Columbia's program was announced.  But as to exactly which 
countries and what has been done, I'll see if I can get some data on 
that and post it later.

          Q    In particular, Russia would be of interest since they, I 
think, owed the largest amount.

          MS. SHELLY:  I'll see what we've got on that and see if I can 
post something.

          Q    Do you have a list of those countries that actually are 
involved?  There are some obvious ones like Russia, but there are 

          MS. SHELLY:  Yes.  I'll see what I can post.

          Q    So this actually has not happened yet?

          MS. SHELLY:  No.  We're still in the process of working out 
the final details of the program.  But even the announcement of the 
program and the anticipation that it was going to go into effect, at 
least for the District of Columbia at the beginning of 1994, did 
stimulate some payment actions.

          Q    Were there governments that protested this action, said 
they would retaliate with our diplomats?

          MS. SHELLY:  I'm not aware of any.  I'll be happy to check on 
that point, though.

          Q    Has there been any concern or any hard intelligence 
coming in of fears of any actual terrorist attacks against U.S. 
consulates or diplomatic outpost overseas in retaliation for the 
President meeting Salman Rushdie?

          MS. SHELLY:  No, I have no indication to that effect.

          Q    So the alert which was put out was a precautionary alert.  
It wasn't in response to any concrete intelligence or fears that 
anything specific might happen?

          MS. SHELLY:  The last time that a visit by this individual 
occurred, we also deemed that it was the prudent thing to do, so we 
issued the warning.  It was deemed once again that that was the prudent 
thing to do.  I'm not aware that it was based on a link to any concrete 
information on something.  It was simply deemed to be the prudent thing 
to do.

          Q    Can I go to Haiti?  Prime Minister Malval is due here 
tonight.  Do you have anything on that?

          MS. SHELLY:  He is traveling to the United States.  He intends 
to meet with President Aristide.  We will certainly also be having 
official meetings with him while he's here.  I don't have an appointment 
schedule for you.  I can see if can find something more concrete.  

          We do expect that Assistant Secretary Watson and Ambassador 
Pezzullo will have meetings with him.  And, if there's anything else I 
can provide on this schedule, I'll try to do so later this afternoon.

          Q    Malval has indicated to Aristide that he plans to resign 
as of December 15.  Is the U.S. going to do anything to try to encourage 
him to stay on, and what impact is that going to have on the whole 
process if he does go through with this?

          MS. SHELLY:  My understanding is that he had said for some 
time very openly that he wanted to serve in government until this 
December 15 date, after which he might wish to return to private 

          I think there are kind of mixed reports about the status of 
his resignation.  I've seen the reports on this as well.  But I think 
the precise question of this is really something that would need to be 
put to him, himself.

          Our view of this is that Malval has worked courageously to 
help restore democracy to Haiti.  His efforts have been absolutely 
invaluable.  We certainly recognize that  the decision is his to make, 
and we respect that.  But we certainly would urge him to continue to 
serve and certainly to be involved.

          Q    Do we favor greater sanctions at the U.N.?

          MS. SHELLY:  I don't have any specific thing for you on that 
right now.

          Q    Wait.  When you say, "urge him to continue to serve," do 
you mean as Prime Minister?

          MS. SHELLY:  I think that we will respect whatever decision he 
wishes to make.  I think that we feel that he is a very critical player 
in the process.  I'm sure that this will be a subject for discussion 
between him and President Aristide, so I don't really want to go beyond 

          But certainly the timing of any potential departure is his to 
make, but we would certainly be very happy if he would continue to serve 
in his current position.

          Q    Doesn't that leave a really serious gap if he were to 
leave?  Who would be left in Haiti that you can deal with and try to 
resolve this problem?

          MS. SHELLY:  That is kind of difficult to answer, since it is 
really the whole mechanics of this and what his intentions are and what 
might or might not happen related to either his decision to leave or any 
potential successor, since that is all something that is going to be 
discussed in a major way.  I just wouldn't want to speculate on that.  I 
don't really have any light I can share on that at this point.

          Q    Can you tell me what incentive Pezzullo or Watson could 
give him in trying to -- in urging him to stay?  I mean, what's in it 
for him to stay, or what's in it for his view of what ought to happen in 

          MS. SHELLY:  The key point here, of course, is to try to get 
the whole process and to get the goals that were identified in the 
Governors Island agreement and all subsequent discussions and 
negotiations -- the point of this is to still try to get the process 
back on track, and Malval has certainly stayed the course on this.  He 
has devoted an enormous amount of personal energy and effort to trying 
to keep the country going, trying to get the various parties to agree, 
and to get closer to implementation of those commitments.

          As to the exact specifics of what might be discussed by Watson 
or any other officials, I just can't get into that.  I am sure that they 
will try to look for solutions to the current impasse, and we'll 
certainly very much try to keep him engaged in the process in whatever 

           Q    It's just that he puts his life in danger, but the 
United States has said that it's not in the national interest to put an 
American life in danger to see the Governors Island Accords implemented.

          MS. SHELLY:  What's the question?

          Q    The question is:  Why should he stay and remain in 

          MS. SHELLY:  I don't want to address the danger point.  He is 
a man who clearly has a very strong sense of public service, and that 
is, I'm sure, why he has stayed as long as he has.  He has indicated 
certainly his willingness to be involved, to be engaged, to try to get 
things on the right track, and I think that his efforts on that, in 
whatever capacity he would be in, we would certainly hope and expect 
that those would continue.  I don't think there's really much else to 

          Q    Perhaps I could simply ask, is there anything further 
that the United States intends to propose to Mr. Malval to keep him on 
the job?  That is, any further action that the United States is prepared 
to take that it hasn't already taken?

          MS. SHELLY:  What happens next is clearly the subject of his 
meetings with the U.S. officials, and I just can't get into the 
substance of that at this point.

          Q    Do you have anything about the meeting yesterday at the 
State Department between Jordanian, Israeli and American officials?

          MS. SHELLY:  Yes.  I have a little bit on that.

          The second meeting of the U.S.-Jordanian-Israeli trilateral 
economic committee was held in Washington on November 30 through 
December 1.  The group met in plenary and, as agreed at its first 
meeting in Paris, proceeded to convene two sub-groups -- one on trade, 
banking and finance, and one on economic cooperation and development.

          Among the results of this trilateral, first, a Jordanian-
Israeli memorandum of understanding on banking was concluded which will 
enable Jordanian banks to operate in the West Bank.

          Secondly, there was a discussion about possible activities of 
overall resource development in the Jordan Rift Valley.  For example, 
human resource development, industry, water and energy.

          Thirdly, the participants agreed that the establishment of 
trade arrangements was crucial to the economic well-being of the region.  

          All of the sides agreed to continue more detailed discussions 
on these and other issues in the near future in the two agreed sub-
groups of the trilateral.

          Q    Could we go back to Haiti for a minute?  Do you have any 
assessment as to how well the sanctions have been working?

          MS. SHELLY:  I don't have any recent information really on 
that.  Still, my understanding is that the food and the medicine are 
still getting to the most vulnerable.  The humanitarian side is still 

          We probably see the same reports that you do about the impact 
in other respects on the economy.  I'm not aware that we have done any 
recent assessments or analysis of the precise impact.  I'm certainly 
happy to check into that and, if we have something concrete to say, I'll 
try to post something this afternoon.

          Q    Thank you.

          MS. SHELLY:  Thank you.

          (The briefing concluded at 1:27 p.m.)

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