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US DEPARTMENT OF STATE DAILY PRESS BRIEFING Tuesday, September 21, 1993 BRIEFER: Michael McCurry Subject Page RUSSIA Yeltsin Dissolves Parliament/Calls Elections ...1-5 -- US Reaction ................................1-5 Secretary's Contacts with Foreign Minister .....2-3 GEORGIA Secretary's Discussions with Russian FM ........3,11 US Urges Resumption of UN Peace Process ........10 President's Contacts with Yeltsin ..............10-11 FORMER YUGOSLAVIA Parties Conclude Agreement/US Reaction .........5-7 Peacekeeping ...................................6-8 -- US Commitment/Consultations with Congress ..6-8 UN Secretary's Meeting with Secretary General .....6-7 NORTH KOREA US Contacts ....................................8-9 Letter Reportedly Given to Asst. Sec. Gallucci .9 MIDDLE EAST PEACE PROCESS Israeli-PLO Agreement ..........................9-10 -- Statement by Syrian President ..............9-10 CHINA Prospects for Hosting Olympic Games ............11 APEC Ministerial Meeting in Seattle .................11-13 -- Invitations/Prospects for Meetings .........11-13 (###) DEPARTMENT OF STATE DAILY PRESS BRIEFING DPC #131 TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1993, 12:50 P. M. (ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED) MR. McCURRY: Good afternoon, everybody. I don't have any announcements, but I am aware of the fact that you are all very much interested, no doubt, in the story breaking in Russia. I'll tell you that, as you know, just less than an hour ago, President Yeltsin did appear on television. We were aware that that was going to happen and our Embassy in Moscow had been notified. Beyond that, however, I'll tell you that we are assessing the importance of this. It is obviously a critical moment in Russia, and because of that and because we are continuing our assessment of what these developments mean, I don't have any further reaction for you at this time. I do expect that later in the day we will have a statement forthcoming, and we will certainly let you know when that's available. Q Do you know how much word the Embassy had, by any chance? MR. McCURRY: It was short -- probably less than an hour's notice, I'm given to understand. Q And just to make sure we understand, you said you were notified that he would appear on television. Were you given any kind of content notification? MR. McCURRY: I'm not sure how much information Ambassador Pickering was actually given about the content. I think it might have been a very -- at least a thumbnail sketch of the contents of the announcement made by the President. Q Is there any indication of any unusual military activity in Russia? MR. McCURRY: Not that I have that I'm aware of here. It's something that there's clearly been a great deal of ferment in the political debate in Russia recently, as you're aware. But I'm not aware of anything unusual. Q Is the U.S. proceeding as normal with all activities of the U.S. Embassy -- for example, meeting with Russian officials? Are they continuing to conduct meetings of that sort; or has anything been put on hold, whether it be diplomatic contacts or military contacts or financial dealings, or anything of that sort? MR. McCURRY: It's not exactly a normal work day. They are working at the moment to assess the importance of these events, and they'll certainly be concentrating their work on assessing this move -- what it means, what the prospects of elections in December might mean. So I think right now they're trying to gather correct information and then interpret that information for the use of senior policymakers here. Q This is not exactly unforeseen. It had been talked about for weeks in Moscow. Surely the United States had considered the implications of this. MR. McCURRY: We have been considering the implications for some time of the ongoing political dialogue in Russia. We're certainly aware of the forces in contention there politically. Those are matters of internal debate within Russia; but, as we always do, because of the importance of the relationship, we do assess current developments, of course. Q Mike, it's unusual and maybe we didn't ask the question that would have elicited the expected response, but I don't hear any expressions of support or anything of the sort -- of the process or the person. MR. McCURRY: They might very appropriately come later today from an official more senior than me. I want to make it very clear we're dealing with a story that's now just in the process of breaking, and we will have some authoritative reaction shortly. Q Would you expect that reaction to come from Christopher or perhaps the White House? MR. McCURRY: We will check and see. That's one of the things that we're discussing right now. Q May I ask you, the Secretary's been talking quite a bit lately to Mr. Kozyrev, mostly about the Palestinian situation. In fact, maybe even yesterday before the speech, he was one of the half dozen major players he talked to on the phone. Was there any special indication of a problem coming from Moscow during this conversation? MR. McCURRY: I wouldn't say that there was an indication of a problem. I think they discuss a range of matters all the time. I think you know their most recent conversation had to do with the fighting currently going on in Georgia, among other subjects, and also the Middle East peace process which they talked about at some length. Q Did they discuss during their recent conversation, or conversations in recent days, the political turmoil in Russia itself? I don't recall you mentioning that as a topic of their discussion, but again, as Barry said, we may not have asked the right question. MR. McCURRY: I don't believe that they discussed the political situation in Russia at any great length, no. Q And have they been in touch today? MR. McCURRY: I do not believe so. I think the Secretary just received word of this shortly after noon, too. Q Who notified Pickering? MR. McCURRY: I'm not sure who he had contact with. Q Who notified Christopher? MR. McCURRY: He heard about it, I think, simultaneously from the news accounts that began to appear and also from the report from our Embassy. Q Will the Ambassador or anybody from the Russian Embassy be asked to come to the State Department? MR. McCURRY: Let's wait and see how our official reaction goes. That may very well be something we address in the official reaction that we issue later. Q It's been the case in recent -- I'd say years actually -- but certainly in recent months that the United States and Russia have communicated very regularly. And when the United States, when President Clinton was going to be having his meeting in Vancouver and proposing the international aid program, and so on, the U.S. Government made extraordinary efforts to keep the Russians informed of what was going to be announced and how it was going to be done, and consulting the Russians on how they would prefer things to be done, and so on. There seems to be no indication that President Yeltsin returned the favor, if you will, on this occasion. Is that the case? MR. McCURRY: That may be jumping to too much of a conclusion. I think I indicated that we are certainly aware of the political situation. I think we understand the seriousness of it, and I didn't rule out the possibility that there may have been a mention or a discussion. But I just don't want to elaborate on that at this time. Q Take a little filing break? MR. McCURRY: Filing break's been asked for and granted. Q The wires are saying right before we came in here that Rutskoi had declared himself to be president. Do we know anything about that? MR. McCURRY: I have not heard any information to that effect myself. Q Have the Russians informed the United States of any change in personnel? For example, is Kozyrev still the Foreign Minister? Anything of that sort? MR. McCURRY: I am not aware of any changes that have been communicated to us. I think it was a very short report that we did receive in advance of President Yeltsin's address. I think much of our news we're developing at this very moment. Q Mike, you may have addressed this in recent days, but there have been reports that Ambassador Lukin is going to be replaced as Russian Ambassador to Washington. Is that a fact, to your knowledge? MR. McCURRY: Not that I'm aware of. I don't think we have been officially notified of any changes. We are aware of those reports and aware that there were reports circulating that they might be planning some changes in their representation; but I'm not aware of any formal communication of changes that have been made by the Russian Government. Q Any idea at this point what the media plan will be for this afternoon? Do you think this is an event of the type that the President would respond to or something that the Secretary would respond to? MR. McCURRY: I don't want to suggest that. We're sorting all that out right now, Ralph, and we'll probably know more at the conclusion of the briefing. Q Will the Secretary go ahead with his planned meeting with Lee Hamilton this afternoon? MR. McCURRY: I expect so. I don't see any reason why he would want to change that part of his calendar. Q Can we request a change in the coverage plan for that? At the moment I think it's scheduled for no coverage. Would it be possible for us to have a crack at the Secretary this afternoon? MR. McCURRY: Yes. We'll check and see one way or another. I think we'll probably try to find a way to make him available. You suggest there might be some folks at the White House who would be available; we'll certainly be checking into that. I think, as you know, Ambassador Talbott was just testifying on the Hill. He's on his way to the White House now. I believe some others are on their way here. So we will be in close contact with them as the afternoon proceeds. Q He did not go to Moscow on this trip, did he, or did he? MR. McCURRY: I believe that was one of his stops. Q Did he meet with Yeltsin on it? MR. McCURRY: Not that I know of. I think he mostly had meetings within the Foreign Ministry. Anything else? Obviously, I know the importance of the story, and we'll be working to get you our reaction as soon as we have it. Q Bosnia? Anybody want to do Bosnia for a minute? MR. McCURRY: Next subject. Q The status of the talks -- sort of up and down. It had been thought that there would be another round today, or that they would resume today, and that was cancelled abruptly. Where do things stand on that front? MR. McCURRY: Our understanding, based on our conversations with Ambassador Redman -- who has been in close contact with the parties and indeed was on the HMS Invincible yesterday during their discussions -- is that the three parties to the conflict have concluded a draft agreement. Q Have not or have? MR. McCURRY: They have. They have concluded a draft agreement that would be designed to bring an end to hostilities in Bosnia. We understand that the agreement builds on the constitutional arrangements and military accords that had previously been announced by the parties. It does also include some new territorial arrangements. We understand that the Bosnian Parliament is expected to consider these provisions, or at least begin to consider these provisions, on Monday, September 27. We're not aware of any similar process by the other parties. But I'd say that the United States welcomes this development. It's an important indication that the parties are coming to closure on their differences. We urge the parties to respect their previous agreements calling for immediate cease-fire, unimpeded delivery of humanitarian aid, and the full and unconditional release of all detainees. Q Did you say it does include new territorial concessions to the Bosnians? MR. McCURRY: Yes. It is our understanding it does include some new territorial arrangements, and those were being sought by the Bosnian Government, I think as you know. Q This Administration a couple of weeks ago, I guess, urged that the Bosnian demands for additional territory get added attention. Are you in any way satisfied with this new accord as it is shaping up? MR. McCURRY: We will learn more about the details of that as we study the agreement itself. I think we had asked for the other parties -- specifically the Croats and the Serbs -- to show greater flexibility as they considered some of the requests being made by the Bosnian Government; and it does appear, with some of the adjustments that have been made, that there may have been some flexibility shown. Whether or not it's entirely satisfactory to the Bosnian Government is something that I would leave to President Izetbegovic and his Parliament to address. Q You don't have anything there about the possible deployment of U.S. troops in support of that agreement, do you? MR. McCURRY: No. As I say, the agreement itself is still subject to approval by the Bosnian Parliament, but we stand by our commitment of February 10. However, no final pronouncements can yet be made regarding the character and size of any U.S. participation in a peacekeeping force. That's something that we will only be able to develop as we come to understand the agreement in greater detail. Q Mike, is there a requirement that the United States -- that the Administration get Congress involved in a peacekeeping operation, get Congressional permission, formal or any special permission for a peacekeeping operation of what this type would be? MR. McCURRY: I wouldn't want to call it a formal participation; but there is a reality that we're in the midst of the appropriation process within Congress, and they have a very strong interest in a variety of these peacekeeping functions under the auspices of the United Nations. They have asked that some considerable detail -- for information about how those are going to be structured, funded, not only in the case of Bosnia, but obviously they have very keen and strong interest in Somalia, and indeed all of the 14 various U.N. peacekeeping missions in various places around the world. So the practical effect is that they have to be closely consulted because they, of course, appropriate the funds necessary for U.S. participation in such efforts. Q But you're saying it's a consultation rather than an authorization? MR. McCURRY: As it has been with so much involved with the former Yugoslavia, it's a very close consultation. I think, as someone referenced earlier, Chairman Lee Hamilton is here today. The Secretary's been in close contact with other members of Congress. Indeed, a number of high-ranking officials in the Department have regularly talked through with members of Congress a variety of aspects of our policy as it relates to Bosnia, and then indeed the larger question of U.N. peacekeeping itself. Q One further thing: Are we saying yet explicitly one way or the other whether we would offer troops -- under the right circumstances and with consultation -- whether our offer would include ground forces? MR. McCURRY: I think the only thing that we have said is that the character and size of U.S. participation in any Bosnia peacekeeping effort has just not been determined. Q You've said that you could assume -- I think you said on one occasion recently, that the assumption is that it would include ground forces. MR. McCURRY: Most of the discussion about U.S. participation that you've seen from Secretary Aspin and others has been around that question. I just don't know that we've said anything further than we would determine the character and size of U.S. participation as we review the final agreement itself. Q Might not it help the process of achieving an agreement if the parties involved were either assured or understood that the United States would participate on the ground as well as in the air? MR. McCURRY: I think the parties have a good understanding of our commitment. That certainly has been one of those things that has been discussed, would be a participation by U.S. forces on the ground. But, again, that's a hypothetical discussion you can have prior to an agreement itself. The agreement itself, then, has to be examined carefully and that's when you can make a clearer determination on how you would participate directly. Q Mike, the Secretary saw Boutros-Ghali last night. Did he make any commitment during the course of that meeting as to a U.S. peacekeeping force? And, secondly, did Boutros-Ghali ask the United States to pay up its arrearages so that the peacekeepers in various places around the world might be financed? MR. McCURRY: They discussed both of those issues. I don't want to comment on the content of their meeting, but they did discuss both the arrearages issue and the situation in Bosnia. I think that you all know from the actions in Congress that there are determined efforts by the United States underway to fund some of our outstanding commitments as they relate to U.N. peacekeeping. But I just don't want to characterize a private conversation between the Secretary and the Secretary General. Q What other subjects came up besides those two that you mentioned? MR. McCURRY: Oh, I think they talked about Somalia. I think they talked about the upcoming UNGA session next week, and I believe the Secretary also had a good opportunity to brief the Secretary General on some of his proposals in his speech at Columbia University yesterday relating to the Middle East peace process. Q Mike, back to Congress just for a second. Does this Administration want Congress to take any affirmative step before it sends peacekeepers into Bosnia? MR. McCURRY: Mark, I'll fall back on what I said earlier. We want to be in very close consultation with Congress and know that, by and large, Congress is approving of the determination made by the President as he addresses the question of U.S. participation. Q Mike, do you have any development on the North Korean Peninsula nuclear matter? MR. McCURRY: Nothing new beyond what we discussed the other day. Q This morning, a Japanese newspaper reported that North Korea sent a letter saying that if you bring the North Korean nuclear matter to the United Nations Security Council, they would revoke, they would withdraw the NPT regime totally. Is it true, or could you comment? MR. McCURRY: I don't have anything new on that. Sorry. I don't want to comment on that report. Q Yesterday, you had some certain type of communication with the U.N. Mission in the U.N. -- North Korean Mission in the U.N. So could you give me some content, what type of composition or what transmission you had with the North Korea Mission to the U.N.? MR. McCURRY: I don't have the answer with me that we had yesterday. I do believe that we confirmed yesterday that we do have a channel of communication that's available to us. I can get you some of the detail of that channel as we provided it yesterday. I don't have that with me here right now, but we did confirm that we do have some contact there from time to time. I'll get you more information on that. Q A clarification on that, Michael. Are you denying that the North Koreans handed over a letter to Gallucci? MR. McCURRY: I'm not aware of them handing over a letter to Gallucci. Q That's what the report was about. MR. McCURRY: They handed over -- Q They gave apparently -- the report says last Thursday in New York, the North Koreans gave a letter to -- MR. McCURRY: To Assistance Secretary Gallucci? Q Yeah, to Bob Gallucci. MR. McCURRY: I wasn't aware of that, but I can check on that. Q Senior officials talked about that very -- MR. McCURRY: I recall there may have been some discussion about a letter. I just thought it was the means of transmittal that I'm not certain about. I can check that. Q There was a letter which was not very positive from the North Koreans on that subject; is that right? MR. McCURRY: There may have been a letter on that, and I can try to get some more detail on it. Q Different subject? MR. McCURRY: Yes. Q President Assad has been making some more disparaging comments about the Israeli-Palestinian agreement and has also indicated in an interview with an Egyptian paper that he won't be reining-in the Palestinian rejectionists groups that he hosts. Any reaction to that? MR. McCURRY: I think, as you know, the President himself has had contact with President Assad. There have been some remarks that I'm aware are attributed to President Assad. We haven't seen the full text of those. He has indicated to us that he will not interfere with Palestinian decision-making and that Syria remains very committed to the peace process. President Clinton and President Assad, in their telephone conversations last week, that we've discussed before, agreed that the Israel-PLO agreement was an important and significant event which should serve as a catalyst for progress in other tracks. That remains the United States position. We strongly endorse the Israeli-Palestinian agreement, and we are exercising maximum efforts to build support for it in the region and elsewhere. Q When he indicated that he wouldn't interfere with Palestinian decision-making, does that mean he won't interfere with the rejectionists wreaking havoc? MR. McCURRY: Well, I don't want to characterize that conversation beyond what I just said. Q New topic? MR. McCURRY: Yes, new topic. Q Any indication whether Secretary Christopher will be meeting personally with de Klerk or Mandela, and when you might go ahead and lift the further sanctions? What's the scenario from here? MR. McCURRY: I don't have any further indication on that. There has been some speculation on that. I'm waiting to be told definitively what's going to happen. Q Do you have anything on the events in Georgia? President Clinton showed some support towards President Shevardnadze, but apparently the Russians seem to be taking the side of the Abkhazian rebels. MR. McCURRY: I don't. I've got a little bit of information on just what we know about the military situation in Abkhazian, which I think many of you have already seen reflected on the wires, including the fighting around Sukhumi. I will tell you that President Clinton wrote to Chairman Shevardnadze this past weekend expressing his support for the Chairman's efforts to bring a lasting and just peace to Georgia. We are watching developments there very closely and we are in constant contact with concerned parties through our Embassies in Moscow and Tbilisi. We've urged all parties to use their influence to halt the current Abkhazian offensive and to resume the U.N.-endorsed peace process. It's also true that we have been communicating very directly with the Russians on this question. As I think I indicated earlier, Secretary Christopher had discussed the matter over the weekend with Foreign Minister Kozyrev, and I believe that President Clinton may have also sent a separate letter on this subject to President Yeltsin. Q I don't know if you mentioned it when we stepped out. Do you have anything more on the pledging conference -- any RSVPs, where and when? MR. McCURRY: No, I don't. They're still working on the data. I think I understand from the background session that many of you got here yesterday that they were able to narrow it down a little bit for you and they implied that it might be held early next month, if not the earliest next month. But beyond that, I don't think we have a firm date yet. Q Mike, anything on China and the Olympics? There was a pretty harsh editorial today in the New York Times. MR. McCURRY: No. We've been asked several times whether we take a position on that question. We don't. We have shared some information with the U.S. members of the International Olympic Committee, but that's a decision that they will reach themselves, I believe tomorrow, if I'm not mistaken. Q Thank you. MR. McCURRY: Thursday. Q I'm not clear on why the United States, which has an interest in preventing China from doing all of the things that it wants to prevent China from doing has not taken a position or has not even hinted that it could use the Olympics as some leverage. Why hasn't the United States -- I mean, is there some reason governments stay out of this? MR. McCURRY: Our feeling is, we've had a number of concerns that we are raising directly with China on a variety of issues, as you know. I just don't think that this is one in which we see a pressure point or some action required of the United States Government. It is within the province of the International Olympic Committee to make decisions about host cities, especially looking ahead to the year 2000. Q Can we move to the next subject? MR. McCURRY: Yes. Q Okay. On that, I'm questioning about APEC yearly upcoming conference. The first one will be, has the United States Government already sent invitation letters to all of the governments participating? The economic leaders council are quite apt to look to a new meeting. A second will be, there's a lot of new stories reported that Jiang Zemin and Vincent Shaw are invited as a delegation from Beijing and Taipei. Can you confirm that? And the third will be, will President Clinton plan to meet each of the leaders during the meeting period? MR. McCURRY: I'm constrained a little bit in what I can say. I think you all know that APEC will have its Ministerial meeting in Seattle November 17-19. There's been considerable, and I would say accurate, speculation that there will be a leaders session at the conclusion of that session. The White House, of course, would be extending invitations on behalf of President Clinton, so it's really more within their province to tell you more about the invitations that might very well be in the mail at this moment. I can tell you that Taiwan has been invited to attend the leaders meeting. We look forward to their participation. As for their response to the invitation, the level at which they would respond, I'd really refer it to them. I understand they are saying some things publicly about it today and, of course, we would welcome their participation. As to what the President plans himself during this dialogue that will occur in Seattle, I don't have anything in detail on his schedule; but it is described as being an informal session for leaders for those participating members and economies of APEC. Q Does an invitation to Taiwan preclude an invitation to the People's Republic? MR. McCURRY: No. Q Does the U.S. care at what level Taiwan is represented? MR. McCURRY: They'll be responding and answering to that, but it would be disingenuous to say there hasn't been some discussion about that in advance of the formal invitations being prepared. I really would prefer to leave it up to the White House. It's really something that they will properly announce when they're ready to give you more of the details on the informal leaders meeting itself. Q Is the U.S. imposing restrictions on Taiwan's representative? MR. McCURRY: No, we wouldn't say that; no. Q Has this Administration sent the individual invitation letters to the respective governments -- the President and the Chief Executive of all the members? Did you send the individual letter to invite the Chief Executive of all the members? MR. McCURRY: I really would ask you to check at the White House as to who actually received invitations going to each of the members of APEC, or member economies of APEC. I think that they will be in a position very shortly to indicate exactly who they have been in correspondence with. Q Do you have any undergoing arrangement to the coming of the respective country's President or Chief Executive to this country? For example, Korea is known -- President Kim was invited by this government and will visit Washington, D.C., before going to Seattle? MR. McCURRY: I'll leave it up to each individual nation receiving an invitation to respond on its own behalf on how they intend to respond and other things they might plan itself. Also, as I say, I think the White House will be very shortly in a position to say some more about that, too. Q Thank you. MR. McCURRY: You're welcome. (Press conference concluded at 1:20 p.m.) (###)