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                         DEPARTMENT OF STATE
                         DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

                                                      DPC #84

                 WEDNESDAY, JUNE 9, 1993, 12:40 P.M.

          MR. SNYDER:  Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.  I'd like 
to begin with a housekeeping note and then I'll be happy to take your 

          Because of Secretary Christopher's press conferences that are 
scheduled at the NAC Ministerial meeting and at the NACC meeting in 
Athens on June 10th and 11th, the daily press briefings for those two 
days will be cancelled.  So, we'll see you again on Monday.  Now, I'll 
be happy to take your questions.

          Q    We have a story saying that U.S. Naval Forces in the 
Baltic spotted a Russian submarine which a Navy commander said was being 
exported to Iran. Have you seen that?

          MR. SNYDER:  George, I literally saw that about a minute and a 
half ago for the first time.  That's the first I have seen it, and I 
don't have anything on it.

          Q    Could you take the question?

          MR. SNYDER:  What's the question?

          Q    As to the U.S. response to this apparent Soviet decision 
to sell or export another submarine to the Iranians.

          MR. SNYDER:  Okay.  I'll be happy to do that.

          Q    Just as a matter of clarifying that point, they announced 
that they were going to sell two, I believe, but they haven't delivered 
them yet.  So this could be the delivery of something that had been 
previously announced.

          MR. SNYDER:  At least one has been delivered, as I recall.  I 
think both, yes.  We'll look into this report, as well.  I'm sorry, I 
really just saw it.

          Q    The meeting with the Koreans is tomorrow.  Do you have 
any fresh guidance on that?

          MR. SNYDER:  Nothing new on that.  We'll be meeting with them.

          Q    A judge in New York ordered the U.S. to free Haitians 
being held at Guantanamo Bay, and cited abuse of discretion in both the 
Clinton Administration as well as the Bush Administration policy.

          Does the U.S. have any response to the judge's order?

          MR. SNYDER:  Well, the judge's order is under review, I 
understand, by the Government.  That is fundamentally a matter that 
affects INS and I would refer any comment to them on the order.  The 
Haitians  --  this is limited to the Haitians who are at Guantanamo and 
no others and no other part of our policy, and we really aren't involved 
in that.

          Q    While we're on Haiti, what is your assessment of the 
situation there with the resignation of the Prime Minister, the de facto 
Prime Minister?

          MR. SNYDER:  Alan, I've got no particular comment on Mr. 
Bazin's resignation.  However, now that the office is vacant, we would 
note that the Haitian people have an opportunity now to move the 
negotiating process forward toward a political settlement to restore 
democracy to Haiti.

          We, the international community, and many Haitians have been 
seeking such a political settlement since the crisis began.  One part of 
such a settlement would involve the naming of a new Prime Minister, 
nominated by President Aristide and confirmed by the legislature 
according to Haiti's constitution.

          U.N. and Organization of American States Special Envoy Dante 
Caputo is working to achieve such an overall settlement. His view, which 
we share, is that the Haitian parties need to begin discussions among 
themselves to move the negotiations forward.

          We strongly support Mr. Caputo's efforts and urge all Haitians 
to work constructively with him.

          Q    But the problem has been, Joe, isn't it, that the Haitian 
people have not been able to have a voice and to nominate a new 
President, because the military has been in charge of the country.

          Is there anything being contemplated to change that?

          MR. SNYDER:  Well, the Haitian people certainly have a voice 
in the duly-elected president, President Aristide, and we have been 
urging all the parties, the President, the de facto government, to work 
together on getting a settlement, and we think that that effort should 

          Q    But we all know that he is afraid to go home.

          MR. SNYDER:  Let me run over a little bit about what we have 
done, what we are continuing to do, on trying to get this process moved 

          This Administration began working on Haiti diplomacy before 
the inauguration.  We named Ambassador Pezzullo to support the diplomacy 
led by Mr. Caputo, and we continue to devote a lot of high level 
attention to the issue.  The Deputy Secretary was just at a meeting in 
Managua on the subject.

          Ultimately the resolution of Haiti's political crisis will 
depend on Haitians coming together in good faith to undertake a dialogue 
and overcome their differences.

          The international community is prepared to support that and we 
believe many elements of the settlement are in place.

          Agreement was reached to expand the international civilian 
mission, first established in Haiti by the OAS last September.  That 
mission is now deployed throughout the country monitoring human rights, 
economic and political conditions.

          The international financial institutions, major donor 
countries, and the U.N. Development Program are developing a five-year, 
$l billion program to help Haiti's economy and to build Haiti's 
democratic institutions.  This will be implemented after the restoration 
of democracy.

          A proposal has been developed to send a mission of several 
hundred police observers, who would work alongside Haitian police and 
military units, and with the civilian mission to reduce tensions and 
prevent abuses from all sides.

          That proposal was developed after close consultations and 
expressions of support by all sides -- President Aristide and his 
supporters, the military, and de facto authorities and their supporters.

          However, in Mr. Caputo's last round of talks, they all failed 
to support it.

          At this point, Mr. Caputo has called for the Haitians to begin 
discussions among themselves to move the process forward.  We join him 
in calling for that step.

          And, lastly, I'd like to point out that we announced new 
sanctions just last week.  We supported strengthening of the OAS 
sanctions last weekend in Managua.  We met this morning, just this 
morning, with other United Nation members about mandatory economic 
sanctions.  So, there is a lot of work going on on trying to move this 
process forward, but I would say that it is up to the Haitians 
themselves in the end to resolve the problem.

          Q    Joe, on that last point, you mentioned that you met with 
a number of countries this morning to talk about mandatory sanctions.  
Could you say which countries you met with, and could you also give us a 
little guidance on where you're heading?  Is it the Security Council -- 
looking for a resolution?

          MR. SNYDER:  Well, I don't want to go into a lot of details on 
it.  We met with Canada, France, and Venezuela. We're looking at 
sanctions which would involve oil products and some other things.  
That's all I've got on it right now.

          Q    Did you say that was in New York?

          MR. SNYDER:  In New York, yes.

          Q    These would be U.N. sanctions?

          MR. SNYDER:  This would be in the U.N. context, yes.

          Q    One more about policy question, going back to the Haitian 
refugees at Guantanamo.  Could you restate the United States policy, 
under the Clinton Administration, in regard to those refugees?

          MR. SNYDER:  Which -- those at Guantanamo --

          Q    The refugees at Guantanamo -- HIV-positive refugees?

          MR. SNYDER:  It really is not a State Department matter.  We 
haven't spoken out on it before.  I don't have, you know, the exact 
description of what our policy is.  I'm really not in the best position 
to talk about it.  I'm sorry.

          Q    Joe, on Somalia?

          MR. SNYDER:  Yes.

          Q    It's been a couple of days now.  Things are getting 
worse.  What does the international community and the United States plan 
to do?  And if you could comment, if you can, on new weapons systems 
being shipped there and things such as that?

          MR. SNYDER:  In terms of the situation being worse, I'm not so 
sure that's the case.  Mogadishu remains generally calm. There was 
considerable violence on Saturday.  There certainly has been some 
sporadic firing and so forth since then, but the situation is calm now.

          The U.N. security forces are on full alert.  There have been 
isolated incidents of sniping at UNOSOM troops -- that does continue.  
Relief organizations and UNOSOM have evacuated most of their civilian 
expatriate staffs.

          A few small-scale relief operations continue cautiously in 
Mogadishu despite the current situation.  An estimated 28 expatriate 
relief workers remain in the city, including six Americans.  Outside 
Mogadishu, no incidents have been reported since the beginning of this 
trouble, and relief operations are continuing in most areas.

          I sort of would disagree, I guess, with your characterization 
that things have gotten worse there.

          Q    Relief workers in Somalia are saying they were briefed by 
U.N. officials that there's going to be a full-scale retaliation by the 
forces there against Aideed.  Can you comment on that?

          MR. SNYDER:  U.N. forces in Somalia, in accordance with 
Security Council Resolutions 814 and 837 are authorized to take all 
necessary measures to fulfill the U.N. mandate in that country -- the 
humanitarian mandate; also to defend themselves, of course.

          We do not believe it is appropriate to comment or speculate on 
what military measures U.N. military commanders might be prepared to 

          We have advised American aid workers that recent violence and 
potential further fighting may pose greater dangers to them.  A logical 
and prudent response on their part would be to move to safer areas.

          Q    Joe, has the U.N. asked the U.S. to provide any 

          MR. SNYDER:  We do have requests from the U.N.  Those are 
under consideration.  In terms of details, Bob Hall discussed this a 
little bit yesterday at the Pentagon, and I would refer you to the 
Pentagon for further details.

          Q    I have two on Down Under.  I think you have guidance for 

          First, on Australia -- this airline dispute.  The Australians 
now have imposed restrictions against Northwest.  Do we have any 
continuation on that?

          MR. SNYDER:  We put something out on it last week.  I don't 
know if the situation has changed since then.

          Q    It has.  If you could look into that and let me know?

          MR. SNYDER:  If it has, I'll see if I can get something.

          Q    Okay, because they have now cracked down and Northwest is 

          MR. SNYDER:  You want our comments on --

          Q    On whether we're going to retaliate.

          MR. SNYDER:  Okay.

          Q    And then on New Zealand, on the Bolger letter to 
President Clinton -- passed on to you.  What is the U.S. response?  Is 
it now time to thaw relations with New Zealand? Is the nuclear situation 
still a major impediment in relations?

          MR. SNYDER:  Connie, obviously, we always play close attention 
to statements and comments by Prime Minister Bolger. We were pleased to 
note his highlighting of the many positive aspects of the bilateral 
relationship in his June 8 speech.

          U.S.-New Zealand relations in areas such as economics and 
trade are very good.  We consult and cooperate in many areas, 
particularly on multilateral issues, as appropriate.

          In March, Secretary Christopher met with Foreign Minister 
McKinnon in Washington to discuss U.N. Security Council-related issues.

          During his confirmation hearing, Assistant Secretary Lord said 
we will review our policy toward New Zealand.  He also expressed the 
hope for movement by New Zealand that would lead to a closer 
relationship.  In that regard, the United States has repeatedly said it 
would be pleased to welcome New Zealand back as a full partner in ANZUS 
if it were willing to resume its obligations as an ally.

          Q    So it's still the same situation that the ball is in New 
Zealand's court, and New Zealand has to change first?

          MR. SNYDER:  I don't have any further elaboration on what I 
just said.

          Q    Also, the White House says that they would be pleased to 
compare notes or to discuss the situation with Prime Minister Bolger.

          MR. SNYDER:  Well, if you've got something from the White 
House, I don't want to get into -- I agree fully with what the White 
House said.

          Q    At all times?

          MR. SNYDER:  At all times.

          Q    Joe, moving back to Africa for a moment.  There's a 
delegation in town from UNITA, and I understand that they met with 
Assistant Secretary Moose yesterday.  Also yesterday, there was a 
statement released by the U.S., Russians, and the Portuguese condemning 
recent UNITA attacks.  Was that message delivered directly to that 
delegation during that meeting?

          MR. SNYDER:  I'm sure it was because the meeting took place 
right after the meeting.  The same people were involved. We did put out 
something characterizing the meeting with the UNITA representative.

          Q    (Inaudible) to start an embassy, or what are the next 
steps now?

          MR. SNYDER:  I'm sorry?

          Q    What are the next steps now with U.S. relations with 

          MR. SNYDER:  I'm not sure what the next steps are.  We have 
recognized the Government of Angola.  Let me see if I can find out where 
that stands.  It's been a few weeks since we did that.

          Q    Can you comment -- in the communique which was put out 
yesterday, there is a mention of retaliation against UNITA, or sanctions 
against UNITA if UNITA doesn't fall in line with the U.N. plan.  What 
kinds of sanctions have those three countries been talking about during 
this meeting?

          MR. SNYDER:  I don't really want to elaborate on what we put 
in the statement.  That's what we agreed to do, and that's where we 
stand in this process right now.  I've got nothing further; no further 

          Q    Have you decided on the next Ambassador to Japan? There's 
been some report that Mr. Mondale might --

          MR. SNYDER:  On ambassadors, as always, I will be very happy 
to refer you to the White House with whom I agree always.

          Q    Are you expecting any announcements on ambassadorial 
appointments this week?

          MR. SNYDER:  That's something that's going to come out of the 
White House.  You have to check with them.

          Q    Can I confirm that you have been in the process -- 
agreement process -- of a specific person; no?

          MR. SNYDER:  Check with the White House.  No announcements 
have been made on the Ambassador to Japan.

          Yes, Sid.

          Q    Maybe, on that topic, do you have anything to say about 
the wedding in Japan yesterday?

          Mr. SNYDER:  No, it's basically a private affair.  It's not a 
governmental affair.  It's nothing that would be appropriate for us to 
comment on.

          Q    Maybe I missed it -- I was a little late -- but could you 
tell me anything about the pre-consultations with the Palestinians?

          MR. SNYDER:  Just a very little bit.  We expect to meet with 
the Palestinians this week prior to the resumption of the negotiations 
on June 15, and we look forward to meeting with the other delegations on 

          Q    Joe, there are several reports out of the Middle East 
saying that the U.S. Government is willing to give security guarantees 
to Israel and the Syrians on the Golan.  Do you have anything to say 
about it?  Can you confirm that any promises have been made to the 
Syrians or the Israelis on that matter?

          MR. SNYDER:  Jacques, I haven't seen those reports. And it 
sounds to me like if there was something to it, it would be part of the 
subject matter of the negotiations that are going on right now.  And, as 
you know, we really don't comment publicly on the subject matter of the 
peace talks.

          Q    But apparently the Prime Minister of Israel, Shimon 
Peres, and the Prime Minister of Syria took the liberty of commenting on 

          MR. SNYDER:  That's exactly the way we've been doing it.  
We've left it up to the parties to discuss what's going on in the talks, 
and I think that works very well.  It's something we'll continue doing.

          Q    In that respect, the U.S. Government is directly 
involved, since they are both talking about security guarantees to them 
by the U.S. Government?  So you have no comment on that?

          MR. SNYDER:  As I said, to the extent that it -- because it 
does involve the talks that are going on between the parties, we're not 
getting involved in publicly discussing the content of those talks.

          Q    Who is coming from the Palestinian side?

          MR. SNYDER:  Pardon me?

          Q    Who is coming from the Palestinian side?

          MR. SNYDER:  I don't have a list of the folks. We've generally 
left it up to them to discuss who is heading their delegation --

          Q    Why are we coming ahead of anybody else?

          MR. SNYDER: You'd have to ask them.

          Q    Joe, could you tell us when a time and a date are 
actually set for the meeting with the Palestinians?  When they will be 

          MR. SNYDER:  We will try to give you -- I'll see what we can 
do.  We haven't always been able to keep you abreast of each one of the 
contacts we've had with all of the parties.  I know there's a lot of 
interest in this, and I'll see if we can put something out before they 

          Q    Thank you.

          MR. SNYDER:  Thank you.

          (Press briefing concluded at 12:56 p.m.)

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