DEPARTMENT OF STATE DAILY PRESS BRIEFING DPC #62 THURSDAY, APRIL 29, 1993, 12:53 P.M. (ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED) MR. BOUCHER: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I don't have any announcements or statements, so I'd be glad to take your questions. Q Do you have any comment on the announcement by the Bosnian Serbs that they're going to reconsider the U.N. peace plan at a session May 5 -- next Wednesday? MR. BOUCHER: You mean, the announcement within the last couple of days, saying that they might -- Q The announcement this morning. MR. BOUCHER: I haven't seen anything new this morning. No, I don't, really. It's a question of seeing the fighting stop and seeing serious negotiations on the peace process, and that's what we're looking for. Q Well, if they actually -- MR. BOUCHER: That's what our pressure is designed to induce. Q I mean, if they actually do that, what impact would that have on the decision coming out of here? MR. BOUCHER: Well, obviously, the diplomatic state of play has to be considered when you're looking at decisions and considering options. But, as well, the most important thing to consider is the situation on the ground. The continuation of fighting and the lack of serious efforts to find a peace agreement is what has motivated us to continue to find ways to bring pressure on them. Q Do you have any comment on a Russian proposal that apparently Mr. Kozyrev made to have a multilateral meeting on Bosnia in Geneva in the next week? MR. BOUCHER: There have been a number of different ideas about some sort of multilateral meeting, and obviously those have to be considered. But at this point, we think that convening another international conference would be premature. As you know, we're considering various options. There are similar reviews underway in different capitals. We want to wait until reviews have been completed and until we have a chance to consult with our friends and allies before we try to respond further to some of these proposals. Q So we would like to -- the United States would prefer to have its own policy options finally decided and out in public before it has such a meeting? MR. BOUCHER: We believe that our own review, our own decisions should be made, and that others who are undertaking similar reviews, we should have a chance to get together and talk to them about the further steps before we decide to call another meeting. Q How close are you to making your own decisions? MR. BOUCHER: That one I leave for the White House. I think Dee Dee Myers, this morning, said in the next few days, probably decisions. Not necessarily announcements. But I'd just go with her on that. Q And what impact might that have on the Secretary of State's plans over the next few days? MR. BOUCHER: Well, as he told you, there's nothing scheduled yet. Q Nothing scheduled for what? MR. BOUCHER: Nothing scheduled for travel. Q Oh, travel. He might travel somewhere? (Laughter) MR. BOUCHER: I assume those were the kinds of plans that you might have been asking about. Q Just curious. So, there's some possibility he might travel? MR. BOUCHER: I've heard it said, John, that there are questions in the air. But at this point, there's nothing scheduled. Q What's the purpose of the Secretary's meeting with Secretary Aspin, on the Hill, at this very hour? MR. BOUCHER: He and Secretary Aspin are meeting with some of the Congressional leadership at this very hour to follow up on the President's consultations with the Hill the other day to discuss Bosnia. Q Are they informing the Hill of the President's decision on Bosnia? MR. BOUCHER: I wouldn't describe it that way. Q How would you describe it? MR. BOUCHER: I wouldn't. I'd just say they're having a discussion on Bosnia to follow up the President's discussions the other day. Q Are they seeking advice from the Hill leadership? MR. BOUCHER: They're following up the discussion the President had with members of Congress the other day. I think they're principally focused on the issue of how the Congressional process should work in relation to any decisions that might be made on options. Q This wouldn't be -- or would it? -- is it possible that this meeting is one in which the Executive Branch is informing Congress under the War Powers Act of its intent to place U.S. personnel into combat positions? MR. BOUCHER: Once again, the White House has made very clear that decisions have not been made, so there aren't any decisions to inform Congress of at this point. We've had a continuing series of consultations with the Congress. The President had a big meeting -- when was it? -- the day before yesterday. The Secretary is following up on that in meeting the leadership on the Hill. He's also having a couple of Senators and Congressmen over to lunch today to talk about the situation in Bosnia further. Q Who's coming over here? MR. BOUCHER: Senator Leahy, Senator McConnell, and Congressman Livingston. Q Congressman Livingston, did you say? MR. BOUCHER: Yes. These are key Appropriations people. Q Did that also have to do with Bosnia, or that has to -- MR. BOUCHER: Yes. Q Okay. Q Is it just Bosnia or is it Russia, too? MR. BOUCHER: I don't know, frankly, if they'll get into other subjects. Q What time is the lunch, 1:00? MR. BOUCHER: It's about now, yes. Q Just one more on the Hill consultations. Is the Secretary -- I'm sorry -- it flew right out of my head. I apologize. I'll think of it later. MR. BOUCHER: It'll fly back. Jan. Q I'll take you to another area, if I may. Do you have any information about reports that the President of North Korea is ill; that there have been unusual troop movements around Pyongyang and that the airport has been closed? MR. BOUCHER: No, I don't. Q Could you perhaps take the question and see if you can find anything out about it? MR. BOUCHER: I'll see if there's anything I can get you on it. Q Thanks. Q Sorry, it just flew back in. (Laughter) Very embarrassing. I apologize. MR. BOUCHER: That's okay, it happens to us all. I'm tempted to use that as part of my answer. (Laughter) Q Has the Secretary had any phone conversations with other international leaders, his counterparts, today or yesterday? MR. BOUCHER: He's talked in the last couple of days with a number of other Foreign Ministers. He's talked to Foreign Secretary Hurd; he's talked to German Foreign Minister Kinkel; he talked to Foreign Minister Kozyrev of Russia; he talked to French Foreign Minister Juppe; and he talked to Foreign Minister McDougall of Canada. Q He didn't talk to the Foreign Minister of Spain? MR. BOUCHER: Not that I know of at this point. Q This is in the last several days. Not today, right? Like yesterday and today? MR. BOUCHER: Yesterday and today. And then he talked to some of them -- I think last Friday were the last conversations we talked about when he talked to Foreign Secretary Hurd and Minister Juppe on Friday about sanctions. Q How are those sanctions working, Richard? MR. BOUCHER: The sanctions, Sid -- it may be too early to draw firm conclusions, but we do have indications that things are quiet on the border crossing points; and I can give you an overall view of sanctions there. Sanctions -- the effects are aimed at Serbia and Montenegro. We've seen the effects of sanctions over time in the Serbian economy. Serbia's economy has been severely weakened by sanctions. The inflation has reached more than 200 percent a month. Sixty percent of manufacturing facilities are idle and infrastructure is deteriorating. The banking system, as you know, is in crisis. We believe that sanctions are taking a significant toll on the Serbian and Montenegrin economy. The cumulative effect of sanctions are bringing home to the Milosevic regime the enormous costs for their policies. Sanctions are increasingly becoming an element in Serbia's assessment of its policies and may begin to limit the options available to the Serbian government. There are signs the Bosnian Serbs are beginning to receive criticism within Serbia and Montenegro because of the effects of the sanctions. The new resolution has just come into effect. Under earlier resolutions, there were 15 Serbian/Montenegrin owned or controlled ships and at least six sanctions violators belonging to other countries that have been detained. Since the new sanctions went into effect on April 26th, two barge convoys have been stopped and boarded on the Danube River. Also since the new resolution went into effect on Monday night, there have been implementing regulations issued by Romania and Macedonia. We expect to see regulations issued very soon by Bulgaria and Hungary. Border control aspects of the sanctions are expected to be applied in the very near future. There are other aspects that may require changes in legislation, such as governments giving themselves authority to impound conveyances and controls on some kinds of services. That may take a short while before they're fully implemented. The sanctions assistance monitors report the borders are quiet. Reports from the Macedonian/Serbian border indicate a very low level of traffic, mostly fruits and vegetables from Greece being transshipped across Serbia to Germany. Reports from Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria indicate very little or no cross border movement. Any ship approaching Serbian/Montenegrin territorial waters is being stopped, inspected and diverted to Italy for further inspection as necessary. In terms of sanctions monitors, we currently have about 70 sanctions assistance monitors in place from ten countries. The United States has increased its contribution from 10 to 27 people, and already all of the people the United States has promised are in place. The EC has agreed to increase its contribution to over 100 customs personnel, and there are other CSCE states that are also providing personnel. Q Richard, what kind of criticism is being levied at the Bosnian Serbs and by whom? MR. BOUCHER: Well, I think you've seen reports in the newspapers of people -- I think it's mostly "man on the street" and some officials -- saying that the Bosnian Serbs are being unreasonable, things like that, just some signs of a certain amount of criticism developing out there. Q So do you see a change of heart on the part of the government -- the Serbian government -- as a result of that? MR. BOUCHER: I don't think I would overestimate that. As you know, we think that they're a very important source of support for the Bosnian Serbs. They have it within their power to influence the Bosnian Serbs to make things happen, if they want to. And the facts on the ground indicate that the fighting continues. The Bosnian Serbs haven't stopped their shelling and their attacks and haven't entered sincerely into a peace negotiation. Q Do you have any comment on the British offer of conditional support for the option of air strikes, as long as the U.S. doesn't push arms embargo as an option? MR. BOUCHER: No, I don't, John. I don't have any comment on any specific option at this point. Q Richard, do you have any reaction -- apparently, the French are talking about pulling out some of their forces in anticipation of U.S. military action or in fear that even talk of U.S. military action could impact them. Do you have any reaction to that? MR. BOUCHER: There was a statement by the French Defense Minister yesterday, but I don't think it said what you said it said. But, in any case, I think we can all assume that the status of forces on the ground would be something that we would consider and discuss with our allies. Q Do you anticipate there would be some pull-back before any military action? MR. BOUCHER: No, I didn't say that. Q Well, do you? MR. BOUCHER: The question of forces on the ground is something that would have to be considered. But since I'm not getting into how things are being considered and discussed at this point, I just can't try to lead you to any expectations. Q Do you have a reaction to the report to the Security Council last night by their mission to Bosnia and their recommendations, which include a series of safe havens to be established? MR. BOUCHER: Yes. We're reviewing the report of the Security Council mission to Bosnia. Obviously, it deserves serious consideration. Some of these ideas are things that we've already said are in play. It's part of our overall policy review, and we'll certainly be discussing the report with our allies. Q Richard, among all the people you've mentioned in the course of today about the consultations, none of them include the United Nations. Is the Secretary consulting with Boutros-Ghali or with anyone else? MR. BOUCHER: Well, I don't know that he personally has had any conversations with Boutros-Ghali, but we've been in very close touch with the United Nations all along. I think yesterday I told you that Ambassador Bartholomew is in touch with Cyrus Vance and, through him, with Lord Owen -- that clearly our people up in New York keep in touch with the United Nations and other countries up at the United Nations. I think I described a whole series of different consultations that had been going on at different levels yesterday. Q But in terms of the type of consultations that the Secretary is having with the Hill today and has had with other governments in recent days, presumably discussing the options that you won't talk about, is that the subject of U.S. discussions with the U.N. or are there other -- what I'm getting at is trying to find out whether the U.S. feels the U.N. has any ore to put in on the issue of what options the U.S. and its allies may or may not exercise in Bosnia at this point? MR. BOUCHER: The conversations I think I'm only able to describe in most general terms. We continue to discuss with our allies, with the United Nations, with other governments in a variety of levels, the situation in Yugoslavia and what can be done about it. Obviously, the United Nations and their forces and their commanders have views that need to be taken into consideration. Q Any discussions with potential arms suppliers? Has the U.S. had any discussions with anyone -- with any nation that could be an arms supplier to the combatants in the former Yugoslavia? MR. BOUCHER: I think it's pretty early to think about speculating about who might be potential arms suppliers. Q Well, the Secretary -- I wouldn't say "speculated," but he discussed that issue on the Hill the other day when he talked about Iran being a possible source. Others in the Middle East, I think he said, could be. MR. BOUCHER: At this point, Ralph, I've told you the kinds of countries and governments we're in touch with. I don't want to lead you further down the road towards any particular option. And I think it's premature for me to try to address the question of arms suppliers when we still have an arms embargo. Q Has the U.S. -- let's put it a little differently -- has the U.S. consulted with countries like Saudi Arabia about the situation in Yugoslavia in recent days -- yesterday or today -- MR. BOUCHER: I don't have a full list. I'll check and see. Q Thank you. (Press briefing concluded at l:08 p.m.) (###)