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                         DEPARTMENT OF STATE
                         DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

                                                      DPC #42

                  FRIDAY, MARCH 19, 1993, 1:15 P. M.
                (ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED)



         MR. SNYDER:  Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.  I'd like to 
make one announcement and I've got several statements, and then I'll be 
very happy to take your questions.

         As you know, on Monday, March 22, Secretary Christopher will be 
delivering a major foreign policy address sponsored by the Chicago 
Council on Foreign Relations, the Executives' Club and the Mid-America 
Committee.  His speech will be followed by a question-and-answer 
session.

         The speech is scheduled for 12:00 o'clock noon Central Standard 
Time, which is 1:00 o'clock our time.  Barring technical difficulties, 
we will be able to pipe the speech and question-and-answer into the 
briefing room here for listening purposes only -- that is, there will be 
no feeds for broadcast out of here.  That will have to be arranged at 
the actual address.

         As for an advance text, we still don't have definitive word on 
when it will be available.  We will do our best to get it to you as 
quickly as we can.

         And, finally, because of the speech we will not have a regular 
press briefing on Monday.

         An announcement on some patrol boats:  As part of the effort to 
strengthen the enforcement of sanctions against Serbia and Montenegro, 
the United States is providing six 27-foot Boston Whaler patrol boats to 
Bulgaria and Romania to bolster their sanctions enforcement capabilities 
on the Danube.

         Each country will receive three boats.  They are equipped with 
the latest electronics equipment to permit all-weather operation. The 
boats are part of a larger effort, of course, to provide technical 
assistance to the states bordering Serbia-Montenegro. These states carry 
a double burden.  They're on the front-line of sanctions enforcement, 
but they also suffer from the inevitable economic dislocation caused by 
the disruption of normal trade.

         Q    Are they armed?

         MR. SNYDER:  No, they're not armed.

         Q    The boats will leave Charleston, South Carolina, aboard 
the S.S. Stella Lykes on March 19 -- that is today -- and should be 
delivered to Constanta, Romania, on April 9. Representatives from the 
Romanian and Bulgarian Governments will receive the boats at Constanta.

         The U.S. Coast Guard is also sending a team to provide training 
on the operation of the boats and river patrol techniques to officials 
of both countries.

         We commend the Governments of Romania and Bulgaria for their 
ongoing efforts to enforce the sanctions in very difficult economic 
circumstances.  The six patrol boats are intended to increase the 
capability of both countries to enforce the sanctions.

         Q    Who's paying for them?

         Q    How much do they cost, Joe?

         MR. SNYDER:  We're paying for them, and I don't have the cost.

         Q    Can you get that?

         Q    When do you expect those boats to be operational?

         MR. SNYDER:  There's a training period.  I don't know when 
they'll be operational, but the Coast Guard is going to be there about 
the time of their arrival.  I don't know how long the training is.

         Q    How many U.S. personnel will be on board those boats while 
they're in the Danube?

         MR. SNYDER:  I don't believe there are going to be U.S. 
personnel while they're actually being used.  During the training phase, 
which will take place on the Danube, there presumably will be Coast 
Guard people.  And I'll try to find out what the cost is.

         Q    Also on the subject of sanctions and sanctions busting, do 
you have any confirmation of a story about a tanker filled with gasoline 
running the blockade?

         MR. SNYDER:  Sure.  Is there anything more on the boats before 
we move on to that?

         Q    What is the purpose of sending patrol boats that are not 
armed?  What are they supposed to do -- just run circles around the 
boats that are --

         MR. SNYDER:  The purpose is to enable them to patrol the river, 
to know better what is going on, to perform normal customs functions, to 
do a better job of patrolling their borders.

         Q    But not necessarily to stop anything, just to sort of 
look?

         MR. SNYDER:  They've go an obligation, as we've talked about.  
The Security Council has authorized them to do what's necessary to stop 
the people, and this is going to give them a greater capability for 
doing that.

         Q    I'm confused, though.  If they're not armed, how are they 
supposed to stop anything?

         MR. SNYDER:  Well, I'm not an expert on how patrol boats 
operate, and I'm not sure whether or not they're going to be armed after 
they get there.  They're not going with armaments.

         Q    Well, that was the question I was going to ask, whether 
the Bulgarian and Romanian operators of the boats -- whether the U.S. is 
going to permit Bulgarian and Romanian sailors to be armed or to bring 
aboard weapons onto the U.S. boats in use for their patrolling 
functions.

         MR. SNYDER:  I don't know the answer to that.  I mean, we're 
giving them the boats for them to use as they see fit. Specifically, I 
don't know the answer to the question about whether even there's a -- we 
have a right to tell them whether they can be armed or not.

         Q    So we're giving them, not lending them?

         MR. SNYDER:  That's my understanding, yes.

         Q    Who do those boats belong to now?

         MR. SNYDER:  They may be new.  I don't know.  I really don't 
know.  They're all identical.  They may be newly constructed.  I'll see 
if I can find out.

         Q    How big are they?

         MR. SNYDER:  27 feet.

         Q    27?

         MR. SNYDER:  Yes.

         Q    Could we go to the question about the delivery of gas to 
Serbia?

         MR. SNYDER:  We understand that this delivery of gasoline took 
place as reported in today's New York Times. The Penelope/East River was 
challenged by a frigate participating in the NATO/Western European Union 
Interdiction Force.  The Penelope was dead in the water, claiming engine 
trouble and an injured crew member.

         The Penelope/East River refused the frigate's offer of 
assistance and was not boarded for inspection.  The frigate then moved 
off to engage in other sanctions-related activities.  The Penelope 
proceeded to Bar rather than the Albanian port of Durres, where the 
captain said he was bound.

         Q    How much gas did he have on board?

         MR. SNYDER:  I don't know, and I gather from the article there 
was some question about that.  Of course, you know, the amount was 
determined when it was unloaded, and it happened in Bar.  I don't know.

         Q    When did this happen?  When was it?

         MR. SNYDER:  Let me get the dates.  They're not on here.

         Q    Is there any follow-up action of any kind?

         MR. SNYDER:  Yes.  We consider this to be a serious violation.  
It must be viewed in the context of the overall successful efforts of 
the NATO/WEU force to inhibit sanctions violations.

         We believe that the Penelope, which is a 1965-vintage oil 
tanker, was sacrificed intentionally to make the petroleum delivery.  
This demonstrates the drastic measures and high premium price that 
Serbia must take to acquire such essential items.  The already severely 
stressed Serbian economy can ill afford such expensive actions.

         The Liberian and Greek Governments have responded quickly to 
the violation.  The Liberians have issued an order requiring that the 
ship remain in the port of Bar until further notice.  Its registry 
documents are suspended.  The Greek Government is actively investigating 
this situation.  The Greeks are prosecuting captains of ships that have 
engaged in similar violations.

         Q    What do you mean "sacrificed," Joe?

         MR. SNYDER:  "Sacrificed," meaning this was a one-way trip 
basically and they expected there would be trouble, and there has been 
trouble.  It got in, but it's not a ship that's going to be used again.

         Q    Suppose it does try to leave?

         MR. SNYDER:  Well, that's a hypothetical question, but we're 
patrolling the Adriatic, and we on similar occasions in the past, the 
Dimitrakis was picked up after it had unloaded its cargo.  So I would 
suspect we would do the same.

         Q    Did you say that the crew was taken into custody?

         MR. SNYDER:  No, I didn't.  But it's in the port of Bar, which 
I guess is in Montenegro.  It would be for the Montenegrin authorities 
to take the crew into custody.  It seems unlikely to me, given the 
circumstances.

         Q    What country challenged the vessel but refused to board 
it?  Which ship from what country?

         MR. SNYDER:  It was one of the ships in the international force 
-- the NATO/WEU force.

         Q    The Times says it's a Spanish ship.

         MR. SNYDER:  The paper said it was a Spanish ship.  I don't 
have confirmation of that.

         Q    Joe, where did the gasoline come from, and do you think 
that the supplier had reason to know that in fact it was going to break 
the blockade?

         MR. SNYDER:  I don't know where the gasoline came from, but 
information we have indicates that the registered owner of the ship is 
presently Bellingham Navigation of Monrovia, Liberia.  Bellingham 
recently purchased the vessel from Horafa Shipping, also of Monrovia.  
Horafa is a subsidiary of Tsakos Group of Piraeus, Greece.  Bellingham 
is a front company for presumed Serbian interests in Greece which are 
under investigation.

         Q    Any port calls prior to going --

         MR. SNYDER:  I don't know.

         Q    What's your understanding of the amount of enforcement 
that can be used against such a vessel?  Could it have been boarded?

         MR. SNYDER:  Yes.  In fact, the NATO and WEU ships have 
challenged at least 7,462 suspicious vessels since the blockade began in 
December.  420 ships have been boarded and 105 inspected and diverted to 
ports in the region because they carried suspicious cargo.

         This is the only incident -- well, it's not the only one, but 
it's one of a very small number of instances where ships got through 
that we're aware of.  It has been a large-scale operation.  A lot of 
ships have been stopped and boarded and inspected and diverted.

         Q    So are you assigning any blame to authorities on the 
scene?

         MR. SNYDER:  Well, what this suggests is that the system isn't 
foolproof.  But what we are saying is that it has been a very successful 
operation, and there has been one -- this is one instance where it 
wasn't successful.  But I wouldn't want to draw a conclusion that 
because we have this one instance the operation isn't a very good one, 
which we think it is.

         Q    Go now to your other announcement?

         MR. SNYDER:  Yes.  This one concerns Iraq.  Today the United 
States conveyed to the United Nations a U.S. Government report on 
substantiated Iraqi war crimes.  We submitted this report in accordance 
with United Nations Security Council Resolution 674, which invites 
member states to collate substantiated information in their possession 
on Iraqi war crimes and to make this information available to the 
Security Council.

         The report documents the outrageous behavior of Iraqi units and 
individuals during the Iraqi occupation of Kuwait between August 1990 
and February 1991.  The transmission of this report reflects the firm 
resolve of the United States Government to ensure that Iraq fully 
complies with all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions.

         Q    Is this the first report of its kind?

         MR. SNYDER:  No.  We provided an interim report on Iraqi war 
crimes to the Council in November of 1990.  Since that the time, the 
Defense Department has done a much more extensive report, which is the 
one we're sending in now.

         Q    Is that available to reporters?

         MR. SNYDER:  Yes, it will be available.  It may take a little 
while.  We're having some technical problems getting a readable copy.

         Q    What's going to happen now to the report and to the whole 
prospect of war crimes prosecution in Iraq's case?

         MR. SNYDER:  Well, again we were doing this in response to a 
Security Council resolution.  The question of an Iraqi war crimes 
tribunal is a matter that's under consideration at the moment.  I've got 
nothing further.

         Q    Is it under active discussion, though?  I mean, it's been 
under consideration for a while.

         MR. SNYDER:  At the U.N., I don't know.  Let me check.

         Q    The Secretary this morning sounded encouraged about the 
prospects for an enforcement resolution concerning the "no-fly" zone.  
Could you flesh that out a little bit?

         MR. SNYDER:  Yes, a little bit.  Support for a "no-fly" zone 
enforcement resolution, which we have consistently supported, has 
increased significantly in recent days.  An informal Security Council 
meeting is being held this morning in New York to discuss a draft 
resolution for enforcing the "no-fly" zone over Bosnia-Herzegovina -- 
enforcing the "no-fly" zone which was created by the Council in October 
through Resolution 781.  The draft that's circulating is essentially the 
same draft that was under discussion two months ago.

         The draft resolution as it now stands authorizes member states, 
acting nationally or through regional organizations, to take "all 
necessary measures" to ensure compliance with the ban on military 
flights in the airspace of Bosnia-Herzegovina.  The draft resolution 
requires that enforcement action be taken under the authority of the 
Security Council and subject to close coordination with the Secretary 
General.

         I would note that this is not yet in its final form -- the 
draft resolution.  There are several outstanding issues, such as a 
waiting period between resolution adoption and any enforcement action.  
We anticipate a vote on this enforcement resolution in the near future.

         Q    How about who would control these aircraft?  Is that still 
a debatable point?

         MR. SNYDER:  I'm not sure.  My understanding is that the 
language says "under the authority of the Security Council and subject 
to close coordination with the Secretary General."

         Q    Which doesn't answer the question of who --

         MR. SNYDER:  Whose control?

         Q    Yes -- who is in command.  Would it be the United States 
that's in command of the aircraft under the umbrella of the U.N., or 
would it be NATO?

         MR. SNYDER:  John, I don't know.  That's not one of the items 
that I have here.  As I say, the resolution is not in its final form, 
and that may well be one of the questions that's going to be worked out 
as the resolution is completed).

         Q    The Bosnian Muslims said there was an additional incident 
of a violation of the "no-fly" zone on Wednesday evening, I believe.  Do 
you have anything on that?

         MR. SNYDER:  I understand there was a letter that was sent by 
the Bosnian Government to the Secretary General.  We haven't seen a 
letter yet.  The policy is to circulate such letters to the Security 
Council members after they're received.

         We have, of course, seen the press reports of bombing attacks 
on Wednesday, but we have no independent confirmation of these reports.

         Such an attack would fit a pattern of Serb behavior established 
when the Secretary General documented Saturday's Serb bombing attack.  
Such attacks, of course, are outrageous; and we're taking firm steps in 
the Security Council, as I just said, to see that they do not continue.  
We repeat our resolve to push for adoption of a "no-fly" zone 
enforcement resolution.

         Q    Will U.S. pilots participate in this enforcement?

         MR. SNYDER:  If the resolution is adopted by the Council, the 
U.S. will do its share in enforcing the "no-fly" zone.  For further 
details on U.S. military involvement, I'd suggest that you ask the 
Pentagon.

         Q    And what's the Clinton Administration position on the 
issue of a waiting period?

         MR. SNYDER:  I don't want to get into the details of the 
positions.  That's one of the things that we're negotiating up in New 
York right now.

         Q    Does the U.S. think that enforcement should begin 
immediately?

         MR. SNYDER:  Well, that's the same question.  It's one of the 
subjects that's still being negotiated, and I don't want to get into it.

         Q    Is that a change of policy, then?  As of last October the 
U.S. policy was that enforcement should occur promptly -- I think even 
"as soon as possible" was the phrase used then.  But as of this moment, 
that's no longer the U.S. position?

         MR. SNYDER:  As of this moment, that's a subject of discussion 
in New York right now.

         Q    Joe, can you indicate more what "near future" means?  
Before the end of the day, before the end of next week?

         MR. SNYDER:  Not likely to be before the end of the day.  I can 
say that, but nothing more specific.

         Q    Do you have any further information on whether or not the 
U.S. is interested in stepping up its aid to different enclaves, as 
requested by the U.N. earlier today?

         MR. SNYDER:  Of course the Secretary addressed it.

         Q    He addressed the issue of helicopters.

         MR. SNYDER:  He addressed the issue of helicopters, that's 
right.  And let me repeat what he said.  We have received a request from 
the U.N. for heavy helicopters; and, as the Secretary said, "We will 
study a request very carefully, and we'll give careful consideration to 
humanitarian measures of that kind."

         The other request was for doubling the amount of aid for 
Srebrenica.  Mrs. Ogata, the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, sent a 
formal request to us, asking us to increase airdrops to Srebrenica to 60 
metric tons a day.  Mrs. Ogata cited conditions in the city as becoming 
increasingly desperate as more refugees continue to flow into the area 
and as Bosnian Serbs continue to block UNHCR convoys from reaching the 
city.

         While the UNHCR would continue to try to get land convoys 
through to Srebrenica, Mrs. Ogata sees no current alternative to 
increasing the airdrops; and we plan to airdrop more than 60 tons of 
relief supplies tonight.

         Q    Would you say that again?

         Q    So you are going to dump --

         MR. SNYDER:  We plan to airdrop more than 60 tons of relief 
supplies tonight.

         Q    That's doubling?

         MR. SNYDER:  That's doubling, yes.  The latest one was 32.7 
tons last night -- 32.7 tons of food and 1.4 tons of medical supplies.

         Q    Also in the request supposedly was a request to have you 
make some of the drops in daylight, because that would reduce the 
difficulty of these people getting their hands on this stuff.  Is that 
something the U.S. will consider?

         MR. SNYDER:  Bob Hall discussed that yesterday in the DoD 
briefing, and I don't really have anything further on that.

         Q    Is this the beginning of an increase, or is it a one-shot 
increase?

         MR. SNYDER:  It's not firmly decided what our rate is going to 
be in the future.  I wouldn't characterize it as "one shot."  I tried to 
clarify that, and basically it's future operations.  I couldn't get 
basically a specific answer on that, but again I think you should check 
with DoD.  But it's certainly not a "one-shot" deal.

         Q    Do you know what the purpose of the helicopters would be?  
Why do they want those?

         MR. SNYDER:  I haven't seen the letter or the request that came 
in.  I can only tell you what I saw on the wires which talked about for 
evacuation and for bringing in humanitarian supplies.

         Q    Do you know how many helicopters are being requested?

         MR. SNYDER:  No, I don't.

         Q    Could you find that out?

         MR. SNYDER:  I'll see if I can find out.  I'm not sure the 
number was cited, but let me see if one was.

         Q    Joe, is there any link, in a sense, between the passage of 
the "no-fly" resolution and American willingness to use helicopters?

         MR. SNYDER:  Again, I think that was discussed at the Pentagon 
yesterday.

         Q    It would certainly make it safer for these helicopters, 
would it not?

         MR. SNYDER:  It would, but the purpose of the "no-fly" zone is 
to make it safer for all of the U.N. operations.  And, of course, the 
convoys are by far a much larger operation involving a lot more people 
and involving a lot more assistance.  That's one of the purposes for --

         Q    I didn't read the Pentagon briefing, but wouldn't it be 
easier for the United States to comply with that request if there were a 
"no-fly" zones?

         MR. SNYDER:  I suppose from a logical point of view, yes.

         Q    Joe, this may seem like a silly question, but if -- the 
thing that's under consideration on helicopters, that would be 
helicopters flown by U.S. pilots, is that correct?

         MR. SNYDER:  I don't know the details.  We've got a request 
that American helicopters come in.  I'll try to get more details on what 
the request was.  All I can say is that the request is under serious 
consideration.

         Q    If such a request were complied with, or if the U.S. 
contributed those helicopters, U.S. helicopter operations of that sort 
requires some ground support, do they not?

         MR. SNYDER:  I think there were about three "if's" in the 
question.  Let's find out what the request was and what we might have to 
say about what we'll do.  I don't know.  It depends on a lot of "if's;" 
it depends on a lot of conditions that certainly aren't clear at this 
point.

         Q    The bottom line question is whether additional U.S. ground 
troops, in addition to the ones who are already on the ground in Bosnia, 
would be required in eastern Bosnia where the fighting is going on in 
order to support U.S. helicopter operations.

         MR. SNYDER:  That's a question for the Pentagon.

         Q    Joe, are any helicopters armed?

         MR. SNDYER:  Why don't you ask the Pentagon?  I don't know.

         Q    And is it your understanding that all the Permanent Five 
members are in support of the "no-fly" zone enforcement at this point?

         MR. SNDYER:  I really don't want to go beyond the 
characterization I gave.  I don't know the details of how it's working 
out on the ground, but we do expect to see a resolution in the near 
future.  So that would certainly suggest that all Permanent Five members 
--

         Q    A question on the "no-fly" zone, please, if I may.  
Earlier this week Iranian jets attacked Kurdish positions in the 
northern "no-fly" zone in Iraq.  Any new incidents of that, or further 
incidents?

         MR. SNYDER:  Not that I'm aware of.

         Q    On another front, and also staying with the former 
Yugoslavia.  In spite of Ambassador Bartholomew's lecturing of the 
Serbian leader, and in spite of Security Council warnings and the 
resolution, the Serbs have gone on with their offensive, stepping up the 
bombardment of Sarajevo, stepping up the ethnic cleansing in eastern 
Bosnia.  Is there anything further that -- and not only that, but there 
are apparently decent reports that these folks are being supplied 
directly from Serbia and that some of the troops have come from Serbia 
as well as some of those planes maybe.

         Is there anything more that we're doing to sort of put a stop 
to what's happening on the ground?

         MR. SNYDER:  Saul, yes.  First of all, the "no-fly" zone 
enforcement resolution -- we're moving on that and hopeful that we're 
going to be getting that soon.

         We're stepping up the sanctions, as we've described many times.  
We're putting pressure on Serbia to realize that there's going to be a 
very heavy price for continued behavior this way.

         I would note that we understand from the U.N. that the convoy 
to Srebrenica has moved.  I saw a wire report just before I came in 
suggesting that it had arrived in Srebrenica, which is progress.  So 
there is a lot going on.

         The New York negotiations continue.  We are pushing those 
negotiations, and we think they're going to be successful.

         Let me tell you what I have the negotiations. Ambassador 
Bartholomew met twice yesterday with President Izetbegovic.  We 
certainly understand President Izetbegovic's concern and reason for 
suspending his participation in the talks.

         We strongly condemn the bombardment of Sarajevo and the Bosnian 
Serb military offensive in eastern Bosnia.

         During the afternoon meeting, Ambassador Bartholomew and 
President Izetbegovic discussed his decision not to participate in the 
talks at this time.  We continue to believe, and Ambassador Bartholomew 
discussed this with President Izetbegovic yesterday, that the best 
prospect for a solution remains a negotiated settlement agreed to by all 
of the parties.

         Ambassador Bartholomew also met yesterday with Serbian-
Montenegrin Foreign Minister Jovanovic and pressed him hard on Serbia's 
role in prosecuting the war.  He urged an immediate end to the fighting, 
recognition of Bosnia-Herzegovina by Serbia, and full access for relief 
convoys.  He also urged Jovanovic to support and press the Bosnian Serbs 
to support serious negotiation and agreement on the basis of the Vance-
Owen plan.

         President Izetbegovic has decided not to participate in the 
talks at this time, but I would note that he and his delegation remain 
in New York.  The other delegations also remain in New York.

         Q    Was there a phrase, in that language you just used, to say 
that you condemn what's going on?  I would think the State Department 
would be outraged as peace talks are beginning and they are dropping a 
shell every second on Srebrenica and pounding the daylights out of the 
capital city.

         MR. SNYDER:  John, I said we strongly condemn the bombardment 
of Sarajevo and the offensive.  It is an outrage. You're absolutely 
right.

         Q    The bottom line, in answer to Saul's question, is the 
negotiations are not going on?

         MR. SNYDER:  The negotiators remain in New York. President 
Izetbegovic has suspended his participation.  But I would note that one 
of the convoys appears to have gotten through in Srebrenica, so that's 
--

         Q    Is the Foreign Minister standing in for him?

         MR. SNYDER:  Pardon me?

         Q    Is Silajdzic standing in for Izetbegovic in these 
negotiations?

         MR. SNDYER:  I don't know specifically who exactly is talking 
to whom.  It was the President who said that he was going to suspend his 
participation, but the delegations all remain and he himself remains 
there.

         Q    How does the "no-fly" zone help stop the offensive and the 
ethnic cleansing in eastern Bosnia?

         MR. SNYDER:  Well, part of the offensive apparently was bombing 
that we noted over the weekend --

         Q    Most --

         MR. SNYDER: -- and possibly more recently.  I think an 
enforceable "no-fly" zone would certainly have an impact there. I think 
it would also have a strong psychological impact to see aircraft in the 
area actively ensuring that violations do not occur.

         Q    By the way, you mentioned much earlier that support -- and 
I think the Secretary said, too -- that support for the "no-fly" 
enforcement resolution had increased in recent days.  Why has that 
happened?  Does the U.S. know?

         MR. SNYDER:  My guess would be that we had these bombing 
attacks.  You know we've said, and certainly the French and British 
Governments have expressed their own reservations about the possibility 
of a "no-fly" zone enforcement, and they're now very much actively 
involved in it.  You should talk to them for a characterization of their 
reasons for doing what they're doing.

         Q    Do you have some details of the Peking working-level 
meeting between the United States and North Korea?

         MR. SNYDER:  Yes.  A meeting took place in Beijing yesterday, 
March 18, between the two political counselors -- the North Korean and 
the American political counselors.  The meeting was requested by the 
North Koreans to continue our discussions from March 16, and I have no 
further details.

         Q    That is a consecutive meeting, following the `one on the: 
17th that was requested by the United States side?

         MR. SNYDER:  This was a meeting to continue the discussions 
that had begun earlier, yes; and it was requested by the North Koreans.

         Q    Anything from North Korea concerning the IAEA NPT 
activity?

         MR. SNYDER:  I've really got nothing else to say about the 
content of the meetings.

         Q    How many hours did the meeting last?

         MR. SNYDER:  I don't have any more information on the meetings.

         Q    (inaudible) expected to the meeting?

         MR. SNYDER:  Pardon me?

         Q    Just one day, it is --

         MR. SNYDER:  There are no additional meetings planned at this 
time.

         Q    Is this the first time that there's been a consecutive set 
of meetings between the U.S. and North Korea in the series of 30 that 
have happened?

         MR. SNYDER:  I don't know, Ralph.  Let me check and find out.  
There may have been a similar kind of arrangement, but I'm not sure.

         Q    How about Mr. Gallucci's activities?

         MR. SNYDER:  Yes?

         Q    With whom, or what kind of discussion he discussed?

         MR. SNYDER:  Well, on the IAEA meeting, Carlucci's* discussions 
were the day before yesterday.  The IAEA -- the International Atomic 
Energy Agency -- meeting was yesterday in Vienna.

         At that meeting, the Board of Governors of the IAEA approved a 
resolution that reaffirmed the February 25 resolution that called on 
North Korea to comply with its obligations under the NPT -- the Non-
Proliferation Treaty.

         The Board scheduled its next meeting for March 31, where the 
IAEA Director General will report on North Korea's response to the 
February 25 resolution.

         We welcome the IAEA Board of Governors' reaffirmation

 *  See correction on next page of North Korea's obligation to fulfill 
its commitments under the NPT and the IAEA safeguards agreement, and we 
continue to strongly support these efforts.  We look forward to the 
Director General's report at the March 31 meeting.

         Q    You mean Gallucci, not Carlucci; right?  You said 
Carlucci.

         MR. SNYDER:  Did I say Carlucci?  I meant Gallucci, yes.  
Sorry.

         Q    And did Gallucci suggest any possible next step to take 
action for the preparation if North Korea rejects to accept the IAEA 
inspection team until the end of the month?

         MR. SNYDER:  That's going to be for the Board of Governors of 
the IAEA to discuss at the next meeting.

         Q    New subject?

         MR. SNYDER:  Sure.

         Q    Can you tell us any more details about the Kozyrev 
schedule for next week?  When will he be meeting with the Secretary?  
Will he be meeting with the President?

         MR. SNDYER:  No, I don't have anything more on his schedule, to 
tell you the truth.  He will be here next week.  I don't have any more 
details.

         Q    Another subject?

         MR. SNYDER:  Except what I have in the week ahead, actually.  
That's something else.

         Q    A new subject?  Do you have anything more to say today 
about Angola and U.S. efforts to bring those parties back together?

         MR. SNYDER:  There was a report in one of the papers today 
about a letter sent by the Secretary to Savimbi.  I can confirm 
Secretary Christopher sent a letter to Dr. Savimbi and Savimbi has 
replied.  However, I'm not going to get into discussing the contents of 
this particular diplomatic exchange.

         That's all I've got.  I don't have anything on the fighting.

         Q    And what about -- there had been reports suggesting that 
the United States was trying to have a meeting with Savimbi?

         MR. SNYDER:  In his radio broadcast on March 9, Savimbi 
indicated his intention to send a delegation abroad in the near future 
to discuss prospects for renewed dialogue with the government.  We 
expect such a delegation to leave Angola in the next few days.  We're 
attempting to arrange a meeting with this delegation at the earliest 
opportunity.

         Q    Where is it going to be?

         MR. SNYDER:  I'll try to find out.  I don't have that.

         Q    And who is going to meet -- at what level?

         MR. SNYDER:  I'll try to find that out as well.

         Q    How far or how close are we or the U.S. Government to 
recognize the Government of Angola?

         MR. SNYDER:  Jacques, the focus of our diplomatic efforts right 
now is to get the parties back to the negotiating table.

         The question of recognition, of course, is one that's out 
there.  It has been for some time, but our efforts now are directed to 
getting the parties back to the table.

         Q    Still on southern Africa.  Can I ask you for any kind of a 
readout on the meeting with Pic Botha this morning? For example, on the 
issue of South Africa's compliance with IAEA nuclear safeguard 
requirements?

         MR. SNYDER:  Ralph, I don't have anything.  Let me try to get 
something for you.

         Q    I realize that comparisons aren't done, but I imagine that 
the U.S. is keeping as close tabs on South Africa's compliance as it 
does on North Korea's.  It would be interesting to know whether the 
United States feels things are moving enough in the right direction to 
perhaps justify a movement toward lifting of sanctions.

         Q    Does the State Department -- back one more question on 
Bosnia -- does the State Department have any further comment on the 
American soldiers who are in Srebrenica who are spotting the airdrops?  
Yesterday there was a denial of that.

         MR. SNYDER:  Well, today here's what we're going to say about 
it.  The soldiers with General Morillon are assisting with the airdrop 
effort by identifying humanitarian assistance needs in Srebrenica and 
relaying this information.  They're also forwarding information to the 
airdrop command regarding how much of the aid is actually reaching its 
intended recipients.

         John, these two gentlemen are with General Morillon on his 
staff.  That's the reason why they're there.

         One of the things -- we're working closely with the U.N. on the 
whole airdrop effort, and one of the things that General Morillon is 
doing to help get supplies through to Srebrenica -- obviously, since 
he's there -- is to examine the needs on the ground and to see how 
successful the airdrop has been.  These Americans are on his staff.  In 
that capacity, yes, they're doing these things.

         I think that's the reason why we had a little confusion 
yesterday.  They haven't been sent by us to do the airdrops.

         Q    But they are doing what the government denied they were 
doing yesterday?

         MR. SNYDER:  They are doing what I said they're doing today, 
yes.

         Q    Can you give us their rank and their speciality? Are they 
dropmasters or loadmasters, or --

         MR. SNYDER:  I'm sorry, I don't have the details.  You could 
check with the Pentagon on that.

         Q    May I ask you another question about Pentagon action, a 
reversal to an older question?

         The Pentagon has repeatedly said that the U.S. and its 
coalition allies will enforce the "no-fly" zones in Iraq --

              MR. SNYDER:  Yes.

         Q    -- including the northern "no-fly" zone.  There's been an 
incursion four days ago by Iranian aircraft.

              MR. SNYDER:  Yes.

         Q    Will the enforcement include the shooting down of Iranian 
aircraft if they fly again and invade the northern "no-fly" zone?

         MR. SNYDER:  Well, again, it's a hypothetical question.  Also, 
again, I would suggest that you check with the Pentagon because the same 
question was asked and dealt with by the Pentagon briefer yesterday.

         They're much better at answering questions like that than I am.

         Q    Joe, coming back to the two soldiers, information about 
whom you had a moment ago, are they the only two who are on General 
Morillon's staff?

         MR. SNYDER:  No.  There are others.  As Richard mentioned the 
other day, we have -- what was the number?  About 20, as I recall?

         Q    Yes.  He said "20-some."

         MR. SNYDER:  Twenty-some --

         Q    Does the United States Government know how many are there?

         MR. SNYDER:  -- on the UNPROFOR staff; some of whom are with 
General Morillon in his headquarters, when he's in his headquarters; and 
some of whom, of course, have traveled with him here.  Others are 
stationed in, I believe, Zagreb and Belgrade.

         Q    Belgrade is where they --

         MR. SNYDER:  Kiseljak is their headquarters.

         Q    Do you have the actual amount, actual information, on how 
many there are and where they are?

         MR. SNYDER:  I don't have the exact number, no.

         Q    Could you take that question, please?

         MR. SNYDER:  I'll see if we can do it.  It may be that they're 
not answering it because it's fluid, because people are rotated in and 
out.

         Q    Yes.

         MR. SNYDER:  There are a lot of different nationalities 
involved, but let me see if I can get something.

         Q    But there are only two in Srebrenica?

         MR. SNYDER:  As far as I know, there are only two in 
Srebrenica, yes.

         Q    Other subject?

         MR. SNYDER:  Yes.

         Q    Anything on the Middle East invitations?  Anything new?  
Nothing new there?

         MR. SNYDER:  Nothing new.

         Q    There's also a report on AFP this morning quoting Dr. 
Haider Abdel-Shafi as saying that Israeli soldiers attempted to 
assassinate him by shooting at him in the Gaza.

         Q    Do you have any comment on that report?

          MR. SNYDER:  Well, there are varying accounts of the incident, 
and we don't have any independent information to confirm any one account 
of exactly what happened and who shot whom -- well, we know who was 
shot.  Unfortunately there was one Palestinian who was killed, but it's 
unclear as to who was doing the shooting.

         What is clear, however, is that the rising violence in the 
Occupied Territories on both sides profoundly endangers the lives of 
many innocent people and hope for a just and lasting peace.

         Yesterday's incident threatened the life of a courageous man, 
Dr. Abdel-Shafi, who has taken personal risks to pursue peace.

         Violence and threats must not be allowed to deter his efforts 
and those of all the parties to achieve a just, lasting, and 
comprehensive peace in the Arab-Israeli dispute.

         Q    Does the U.S. think that the violence, the rising 
violence, also profoundly threatens the future of the Middle East peace 
negotiations -- the mere conduct of them?  Never mind the settlement.

         MR. SNYDER:  We think that the violence and threats must not be 
allowed to deter efforts at getting a just and lasting peace, and we 
think that the talks should go on.  It's in the interest of all the 
parties for the talks to go on.

         Q    The PLO yesterday said something about -- called on the 
United Nations for protection.  Did you ever get a response to that?

         MR. SNYDER:  Carol, I was out yesterday afternoon.  I'm sorry; 
I don't know exactly what happened on that.  Let me see what I can find 
out.

         Q    There's a report in New York that Josie Hadas, who was the 
woman friend of Sallameh and was the apartment leasor that he gave the 
telephone number of when he got the van, has fled the country.  Have we 
asked for any government to trace her down and return her?

         MR. SNYDER:  That is a question that's directly related to the 
investigation that's going on.  And as we have consistently refused to 
do from the beginning of this incident, we're not going to get into 
anything which may impact on the investigation.

         Q    Has the Justice Department approached the State Department 
on this at all?

         MR. SNYDER:  Just check with the Joint Task Force in New York, 
if you've got any questions on the investigation.

         Q    Thank you.

         (The briefing concluded at l:53 p.m.) (###)

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