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US DEPARTMENT OF STATE DAILY PRESS BRIEFING #1: Source: State Department Deputy Spokesman Joseph 12:44 P. M. (ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED) MR. SNYDER: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I have one announcement to make, and then I'll be happy to take your questions. Secretary Eagleburger will address a general meeting of the members of the Council on Foreign Relations on Thursday, January 7, at 2400 N Street, N.W. The speech will begin at 6:20 p.m., followed by a question-and-answer session. The media contact at the Council is Jonathan Zemmol. He can be reached at 212-734-0400. Press coverage for this event will be pooled. Media wishing to cover should inquire about the pool arrangements at the State Department Press Office. Q Will there be an advance text? MR. SNYDER: I don't know yet. You can check with us. Q Do you know how many people will be there? MR. SNYDER: No, I'm sorry, I don't. On details like that you can check with the Council on Foreign Relations. Oh, at the pool? Q No. I mean, he's making a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations. MR. SNYDER: Yes. Q And reporters can only be there in a pool? MR. SNYDER: That's the ground rules. Q Is it a seating problem? MR. SNYDER: You'll have to check and ask them about the ground rules that they've set up. We're going to be helping to set up a pool for them. Q Joe, would you mind repeating that phone number? MR. SNYDER: 212-734-0400. Q "M" as in Mary -- MR. SNYDER: I'm sorry. Q "M" as in Mary or "N" as in Nancy? MR. SNYDER: Z-e-m-m, as in Mary, o-l. Q No, the street. MR. SNYDER: N Street -- Nancy. Q How do you spell that? (Laughter) MR. SNYDER: O.K. I'll be happy to take your questions. Q Joe, I'm trying to find out the practical significance of the statements that the President and the French President made yesterday so far as whether the United States is now going to back off, it sounds like, and take its time, give diplomacy some more time, in enforcing the "no-fly" zone. He only has 16, 17 days left. Do I have that correct, that now the idea is don't push ahead with the "no-fly" zone, let's see if diplomacy will end this war? MR. SNYDER: Barry, we believe that an enforcement resolution remains necessary, and we are continuing to seek such a resolution as soon as possible. Q But the Secretary said he expected action by the 1st, and it's now past the 1st. MR. SNYDER: Well, we are working on it, and we are trying to get it as soon as we can, as we've been saying all along. The Secretary talked again, as we discussed last week -- the Secretary discussed what some of the problems are, and we're working to overcome those problems. But we do continue to work on the resolution. Q Do you have a target date? MR. SNYDER: As soon as possible. Q Well, since the Secretary first raised this question in the previous trip to Stockholm, which was the beginning, towards the beginning, of December and there's still no resolution, what should give us confidence that there will be a resolution, that you will, in fact, resolve these questions, since you seem to have been unable to overcome the objections in three weeks of really rather intensive diplomacy so far? MR. SNYDER: Well, there are no guarantees in the business, but we want to see the resolution. We think an enforcement resolution is necessary, and we're going to keep working at it. Q Is the outlook for a diplomatic solution better now than it has been in the last few weeks? MR. SNYDER: I don't really want to judge the outlook. I mean, the Geneva talks are going on right now. Bosnian President Izetbegovic, Serbia-Montenegrin President Cosic, Croatian President Tudjman, Bosnian Serb leader Karadzic and Bosnian Croat leader Boban are all in Geneva to discuss a settlement to the conflict at the conference proposed by Co-Chairmen Vance and Owens. Those talks began on Saturday, and they will continue through tomorrow. We fully support the Co-Chairmen's efforts to find a negotiated settlement to the conflict in Bosnia, and we're pleased that the leaders are meeting to work out their differences. It really would be inappropriate to comment on substantive matters under discussion while the talks are underway and the situation is evolving. Q Joe, I think that I can say with some confidence that there are policies which are pursued more vigorously than others. There are policies that are given higher priority than others. Is the United States pushing this with the full weight of its diplomatic determination to get this through, or is this one of these policies where you state a policy and basically leave it at that? MR. SNYDER: As the Secretary himself has said, we are working hard at getting this. It's something we are pushing hard on. I'm not going to draw comparisons with other policies, but it's something we want to get and we are doing our best to get it as soon as we can. Q Do you anticipate getting it before January 20? MR. SNYDER: I'm not talking about deadlines. Q In Moscow, a senior U.S. official said the U.S. is in favor of a warning period -- a waiting period. I think he means once the enforcement is announced, there would still be time for the Serbs to stop violating the "no-fly" zone. Do you know how those negotiations are going? Apparently that's your hope for a compromise with those who don't want to do anything, such as the British. MR. SNYDER: There are a number of issues, Barry. Again, as the Secretary discussed at various times during the last week or two, that's one of them; and we continue to work on it. Q What are some of the others? Withdrawing the peacekeeping troops so they wouldn't be targeted? MR. SNYDER: We are very cognizant of the concerns of countries which have forces there, and we want to take those concerns into account. Q Joe, in relation to Boutros-Ghali and the mob that stopped him from entering the offices in Somalia, there have been other reports about the conduct of the Secretary General, that he doesn't get along with his people, and all kinds of things like that. Do we have full confidence in the leadership of Boutros-Ghali as Secretary General of the United Nations? MR. SNYDER: Yes, we do. He's working very hard in a number of areas. He and the rest of the U.N. are working very hard in Somalia, working hard in Geneva and in Bosnia on the Bosnian issue. And, yes, we do have confidence in his work. Q Do you have a read on what happened today in the peace talks in Somalia? MR. SNYDER: No, we don't. We haven't gotten a report yet. I'm sorry. Q Are we represented there? MR. SNYDER: I believe we are, yes, but we just don't have a report. The talks are going on today. I'm not sure what time it is, but I don't have anything. I tried to get it and don't have it. Q Do you have any statement on the U.S. troops in Somalia? There was some confusion over the duration of the U.S. leadership. MR. SNYDER: No, not especially. The Pentagon has been talking at some length about U.S. troops, which is, of course, their prerogative. Q Joe, generally speaking, what sort of interim steps would we like to see grow out of these two, maybe three, days of peace talks? I know they're not going to have national reconciliation at this point. What kind of interim things would we like to see happen? MR. SNYDER: I really don't want to go into the talks and predict what might come out of it. We obviously want to see movement towards reconciliation among the factions. We want to see parties which have been at each other's throats for months stop it. I mean, that's the first step. And eventually we want to see a Somali government set up by the Somali people themselves. Q Joe, do you have any comment of the killing of the U.N. worker in Kismayu; the U.N. withdrawal from there; and, I guess, Part B is whether the State Department and the Pentagon have come to an agreement on whether there were indeed widespread clan killings before the U.S. troops moved in? MR. SNYDER: We deeply regret and we strongly condemn the killing of UNICEF worker Sean Devereaux. We have no information on the motives for this senseless act nor indeed who is responsible for it. I understand from a wire that I saw just before I came in that DOD is investigating it. As for the killings before we moved into Kismayu, we addressed that last week. Reports available to us suggest that there were fairly widespread killings before we moved in. Q At the time there seemed to be a difference of opinion between State and the Pentagon, or at least the military. MR. SNYDER: My understanding is that the Pentagon Spokesman, Colonel Peck, in Somalia discussed that and clarified it. Q He went back and clarified his previous statement that was in contradiction of what you all were saying? MR. SNYDER: That's my understanding. It wasn't really in contradiction, but you might want to check with the Pentagon. What we had to say last week stands. Q Do you have anything today on the Palestinian deportation situation? MR. SNYDER: There's been no change in the status of the Palestinians deported by Israel. We remain in touch with the Israeli and Lebanese Governments about both sides permitting international relief agencies to provide the deportees with food, water, and medical assistance. From a strictly humanitarian point of view, we think these people should not remain in these conditions. As the Secretary said, "You can't leave them wandering around in the middle of no place." Q Do you have any response to the question I asked the other day: Any thoughts on why no other countries would take them in? MR. SNYDER: I think you have to ask other countries why they behave the way they do. Q Joe, do you have anything on the Yemen situation? Have U.S. -- it may be a Pentagon question. But has there been a withdrawal from Yemen? MR. SNYDER: I understand there has. I didn't look into it. It is a Pentagon question. It's a Pentagon support operation. Our State Department people remain in Yemen. Q Oh, they do? MR. SNYDER: Although they're in -- yes, they remain. But you might want to check with the Pentagon on its support operation. Q To go back for a minute to the Palestinian situation, have you any indication that the peace talks will resume? And if so, when? MR. SNYDER: I don't have any indication one way or the other. I think all the parties talked about resuming eventually, but I don't have any specific details. Q Has the State Department had a chance to see whether the elections in Kenya were free and fair? MR. SNYDER: We commend the people of Kenya for their dedication to this historic political process. Kenyans approached the December 29 elections and the subsequent counting process with seriousness, restraint, and a spirit of civic responsibility. The International Republican Institute, which organized the U.S. Observer Delegation, has not yet issued its final report on the elections. It is clear, however, from its preliminary report and from the comments of other observers, that the electoral process was marred by serious shortcomings. For example, in the weeks leading up to election day, the integrity of the election was compromised by the manipulation of the state's administrative and security organs to the ruling party's advantage. Administrative irregularities affected both the voting and counting processes, undermining the confidence of Kenya's voters. There are troubling reports of anomalies in voter registration lists and of questionable manipulation of some parliamentary races. However, in spite of these weaknesses, we believe that the election served to advance the establishment of democratic institutions in Kenya and provided Kenya with a more representative government. For example, opposition parties have established themselves as a credible political force in Kenya. Leaders of several opposition parties have rejected the results of the election and have called for new elections to be held. We believe that many of the opposition's concerns must be addressed. We call upon leaders of all political parties to pursue challenges to the election through constitutional means, and we urge President Moi to confirm his acceptance of the rule of law in considering these challenges. Q And what is the status of the bilateral aid program to Kenya? MR. SNYDER: I don't know. Let me check. I didn't ask that. Q Is the U.S. likely to accept the results of these elections? MR. SNYDER: Before we make our final judgment, we want to see the final report of the International Republican Institute. Q While you're on Africa, do you have anything on South Africa -- continued violence, black against white, or whatever? MR. SNYDER: No, sorry. Q What about the situation in Angola? MR. SNYDER: Yes. Over the past week, fighting has taken place in and around three provincial capitals in Angola. Each side blames the other for provoking violence which resulted in substantial loss of life. Circumstances surrounding the outbreaks of fighting are unclear but it does appear that in recent days the government has adopted a more aggressive military posture to counter past UNITA military gains. As you know, in mid-December the government and UNITA accepted a series of steps aimed at a resumption of dialogue. The initial phase -- UNITA'S withdrawal from Uige and Negage and the government's placing of its representatives there -- is already underway. However, we are deeply concerned that the renewed fighting noted above will set back plans for renewal of face-to-face negotiations. Military action cannot be a substitute for serious discussions if Angola is to find a peaceful solution to the current crisis. We call on both the government and UNITA parties to halt the violence and to follow through on their commitments to resume a constructive dialogue. Q Is UNITA at all responsive to American complaints? MR. SNYDER: In the past I think both sides have been responsive to our discussions with them. Q How about Cambodia? MR. SNYDER: Nothing on Cambodia today. Sorry, George. Q Do you have anything on the killing of the Israeli Shin Bet officer? MR. SNYDER: No, I don't have anything specific on that. As we've said many times, we regret the cycle of violence in Israel and the occupied territories and call on both sides to desist. Q Any details on the expulsion of this Russian diplomat? MR. SNYDER: No. As is our practice, we don't talk about such matters. Q Do you have any update on the Cuban airliner situation of last week? MR. SNYDER: I've got nothing really specific. The plane and those who wanted to go back went back. INS and the Justice Department have been pursuing their pieces of the action. You might want to check with them -- INS in the case of those who sought asylum, and Justice on the inquiry into whether crimes had been committed. Q Joe, does the Administration have anything to say about the Turkish parliament's vote to commit troops to Bosnia? MR. SNYDER: Let me see if we have something. I don't have anything right here. Q Anything on Iraq, either north or south or middle? MR. SNYDER: Iraq, north or south or middle? No, not really. Q Something? MR. SNYDER: Anything on anything? Q Iraqi-New Zealand relations. Q What a question: Anything on Iraq? Q Thank you. (Press briefing concluded at 12:59 p.m.)