US Department of State Daily Press Briefing #95, Monday, 6/10/91

Tutwiler Source: State Department Spokesman Margaret Tutwiler Description: 12:23 PM, Washington, DC Date: Jun 10, 19916/10/91 Category: Briefings Region: MidEast/North Africa, Caribbean, Southeast Asia, Europe, East Asia Country: Iraq, Kuwait, Pakistan, Philippines, North Korea, Israel, USSR (former), Jordan, United Kingdom, Cuba Subject: Regional/Civil Unrest, Development/Relief Aid, State Department, Nuclear Nonproliferation, Democratization, Refugees, Environment, Human Rights, International Law, Arms Control, Mideast Peace Process (ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED)

[Testimony and Travel by Secretary of State]

MS. TUTWILER: I have two housekeeping announcements I'd like to make. As many of you, I think, already know, Secretary of State Baker will be testifying this Wednesday, which is June 12. He will testify before the Senate Appropriations Committee's Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, and the State Department on the Department's FY '92 appropriations request. The hearing will be at 10:00 a.m. in Room 146 in the Capitol Building. Q Small room. MS. TUTWILER: You should call your colleagues on the Hill. As you know, we will not be having a briefing. As I remember, Barry, last year, I think, when you all raised this here at the briefing -- Q [Inaudible] MS. TUTWILER: Correct. So my understanding is you all have now raised this. Q Consider it raised. That room is barely big enough for 10 journalists, never mind coverage with all the appropriate people. MS. TUTWILER: The second one is, as many of you also know, that Secretary Baker will travel to Berlin. We will be departing on Sunday, June 16, very late in the evening. He is due currently to return on Thursday. I do not have a time. As you know, this is the ministerial meeting of the CSCE -- the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe. Also, while in Berlin, he will address the Aspen Institute on Tuesday, June 18, at 6:00 p.m. His speech will deal with "Euro-Atlantic Architecture and the Challenges of All of Europe." Q Did Zoellick have anything to do with the speech? (Laughter) MS. TUTWILER: A lot. Obviously, those of you wishing to travel with the Secretary, there will be a sign-up sheet in the Press Office. It will be taken down Wednesday at noon. That's it for housekeeping. Q It's a very serious matter, because when the Secretary says in the future, "As I said in my speech in Berlin," we won't know what he's referring to. Q It's going to be the same speech, Alan. Q Margaret, just on the trip. Will the Secretary meet with the Soviet Foreign Minister, in a bilateral sense other than a multilateral sense, while they're both there. MS. TUTWILER: Probably. We don't have a set schedule for it, but I'm sure that they will. They have discussed, as you know, in Geneva meeting and staying in very close contact. So I have to assume they're going to. We just haven't locked one in yet. Q We might be asking you every day or so about these close contacts, because he did -- the Soviet Foreign Minister -- did say he'd get back as quickly as he can. Has he gotten back yet? MS. TUTWILER: Not yet. That is true. As far as where we are, if you were going to ask me about START and what are the next steps: As they both said -- you're correct to point out -- in Geneva that the Soviet Foreign Minister would be carrying President Bush's letter to President Gorbachev. I don't know if they talked over the weekend, meaning Bessmertnykh and Gorbachev. I do know that Secretary Baker, or to my knowledge, this morning -- checking with Marlin -- the President had not yet heard back from them. Q Margaret, still on the trip. Is Berlin the only stop in Germany? MS. TUTWILER: We're looking at some other things right now. Q In Germany? Q Bitburg. (Laughter) MS. TUTWILER: No. Q Anything outside of Germany, Margaret? MS. TUTWILER: Not right now. Q Margaret, the -- Q Still on the trip, Alan. I'm sorry. Any possibility that you think you might be able to let us know before departure on Sunday whether this trip could extend into the Moscow summit? MS. TUTWILER: What do you mean? I'm sorry. You mean they would announce a summit on their way to Moscow? Q Yeah. Is it possible that it could all be one trip for Baker? Or is it assumed that Baker would return to Washington no matter what between the two events should their summit be announced for the following -- MS. TUTWILER: You mean if President Bush took off for Moscow, would Secretary Baker not go? Q No, that wasn't the question. The question was, would the Secretary of State remain in Europe and travel directly to Moscow if the summit were to occur on the dates announced by the Soviet Union, or publicly speculated by the Soviet Union? Or would he intend to return to Washington and fly with the President? MS. TUTWILER: That's just so wildly kind of hypothetical for me. Q Wildly? OK, it's wildly. MS. TUTWILER: I don't know how to answer it. As you know, traditionally, he travels with the President. But then there are examples of where we've met in places. Right now, we are planning on returning on Thursday to Andrews -- to Washington. Q The Foreign Minister of Israel, Mr. Levy, is going to arrive in New York on Wednesday morning. He's taking part in a Jewish convention. Will the Secretary take advantage of the fact that he's in the United States to have a meeting with him? MS. TUTWILER: We're working on that this morning. I don't have a confirmed time or date for you, but I would envision that the two Ministers will meet, and I would envision it being in Washington, D.C. Q This week? MS. TUTWILER: This is what we're working on. Alan just said he was here.

[Pakistan: Nuclear/Economic/Regional Issues]

Q Do you have anything on the visit of a Pakistani delegation to talk about U.S. aid with specific reference to reports in the Pakistania press this morning that the United States is trying to get them off the nuclear track by offering them conventional weapons used in the Gulf? MS. TUTWILER: The second part of your question, I'm not familiar with. I'm familiar with the fact that they are in the United States visiting, and they have several meetings set up here. A Pakistani delegation, it's my understanding, headed by the President of the Pakistan Senate, is now in Washington. The Acting Foreign Minister of Pakistan is also in this delegation. They will meet at the State Department on Tuesday with Reggie Bartholomew, and they will meet at the State Department on Wednesday with Under Secretary Kimmitt. I don't have the rest of their schedule while they're in Washington. The delegation is coming at the initiative of the Pakistanis. The Prime Minister of Pakistan has said that they are coming to discuss at high levels areas of mutual interest, including nuclear issues, regional non-proliferation, Afghanistan, and economic issues. Q Do you have any notion before they're here that they're about to ease off on their nuclear program? You say Acting Foreign Minister. I guess there's some change now. Do you have any idea of a changed attitude by the Pakistanis? Is there anything the U.S. can do to encourage them? MS. TUTWILER: I know, Barry, that you know this is a subject that is raised with the Pakistani Government at all levels. The Secretary of State -- I believe it was several months ago -- met with the Foreign Minister. You know what the situation is concerning Presidential certification. The aid -- I believe it was October -- that FY '91 aid was suspended. I don't think that it's any secret of what our concerns are in this area. They're sending this delegation, and they will, I'm sure in quite some detail, discuss this issue. Q You say you don't have the rest of this. Do you happen to know if they're going to the Pentagon, too, which would seem -- MS. TUTWILER: I've heard that they are, but please check with them, or I'll try to see if I can get some more details for you. I've heard not only the Pentagon but the White House. Q Would you take the second half of George's question concerning -- MS. TUTWILER: Say it again, George? What was it? Q There are reports in two Pakistani newspapers today that the United States wants to encourage them to get off the nuclear track by offering them conventional weapons used in the Gulf. MS. TUTWILER: I have not heard that. I will definitely take your question and look into it. Q Margaret, on Friday, the Secretary said that the U.S. Government had received a reply from the letter to the Israeli Government, but that they had not received a reply from the letter to the Syrians. Have we had a reply from them? Can you give us an assessment of where things stand in the Middle East these days? MS. TUTWILER: We have not had a reply -- the President has not, as of this morning that I know, had a reply from the Syrians. Concerning the reply the President has had from Prime Minister Shamir, I don't have anything to add to what Marlin said on Friday from the White House and what the Secretary said out on the road. Q Margaret, on that. Since Friday, however, Prime Minister Shamir, or his spokesman, had said that the Bush letter would offer concessions in a negotiation framework if Israel were to suspend settlement activity. Do you know if that is, in fact, the case? MS. TUTWILER: What we've -- I know it's frustrating -- refrained from doing, and that's what I'm going to have to continue to do today, is discussing the specifics of either one of these heads of state letters or discussing -- to be quite honest, as you know, Secretary Baker, in his four trips to the region, has not discussed at that level of detail the specifics of what he is discussing with any of the capitals of which he has visited. So I cannot just get into those types of details with you. Q Margaret, has there been a response from King Hussein to the President's letter? And, if so, could you characterize the response? MS. TUTWILER: I'd have to refer you to the White House. Q Would you say that there is still a window of opportunity in the Middle East? MS. TUTWILER: I would say that we are exactly where we've always been. The President's and the Secretary's feelings and views on this are: (1) that we cannot want peace in this region more than the parties themselves; and (2) that we, the United States, as the President has strongly expressed, are willing to be a catalyst -- are willing to be involved -- provided that there is something to work with and that the parties themselves want to work with it and want peace. Q Well, here we are, several months down the road, several trips behind us, letters coming backwards and forwards. Do we want peace more than the parties themselves? MS. TUTWILER: I can't answer that. I don't have an analytical crystal ball for you. I know that the President has said, as any number of people, including people in the region, that this is an extremely important issue. This is something that everyone says they want to work toward. No one has underestimated the difficulty of this. As Secretary Baker has described it, it's probably one of the most intractable problems facing the world. So we are going to continue to work the issue as long as there is genuine desire -- which we believe there is by all parties -- to work with us and together on this. Q Can you offer any evidence to us that this process is still alive? MS. TUTWILER: I can offer you a lot of evidence. If it was dead, I think someone would have declared it dead. I think the Secretary of State and the President wouldn't have written letters -- I think it was just last week. I don't believe that at various diplomatic levels individuals would be continuing to work on this. So I don't have anything to point to that would say it's history. Q Does the Secretary at this point have any plans to return to the region, or is he considering returning to the region in the near future? MS. TUTWILER: I answered this question consistently the same way. Q It changes everyday. MS. TUTWILER: I cannot say the Secretary of State will never go to the region again. That is the big, broad question. On your specific question, "Does he have any current plans?" The answer is no. Q The White House might have been into it. I didn't notice. But has the President talked to the Secretary about the Middle East and about START, about Bessmertnykh and all? He was going to, we understand, report to the President. MS. TUTWILER: I forgot to ask him. To be honest with you -- Q He didn't go to Camp David, did he? MS. TUTWILER: Yes, he did. So I just completely -- I'm sorry -- forgot to ask him. Q I mean, Baker went to Camp David? MS. TUTWILER: Yes, with the President, yesterday. Q I don't think they went together. MS. TUTWILER: Well, they were there together. Q He got up there. They didn't leave together. That's why I wasn't sure when. MS. TUTWILER: You're right, they didn't. To be honest with you, Barry, in all the things I asked him this morning, that's one I forgot to ask. I'm trying to remember if he talked to the President enroute back from Geneva. I'm sorry, I can't remember. Q Can you spell out with more detail now what's being done about the START talks? You remember the experts on [inaudible] are they on the scene now? Is there anything more you can add to how the two sides are trying to re-enforce their -- MS. TUTWILER: Not really, other than, as I said a little bit earlier, we're waiting to hear back from the Soviets in response to President Bush's letter. Under Secretary Bartholomew is still currently scheduled, as planned, to travel to China. I believe it was June 17. Obviously, should a need arise, he could, if he had to, change his plans. Right now, the issue at that level -- the technical level -- is being worked in Geneva by our negotiators and START specialists. But right now, we're waiting and have not yet heard a response from President Bush's letter to President Gorbachev. So there's nothing really in play right now. As of this morning, Secretary Baker had not heard from Foreign Minister Bessmertnykh and, to my knowledge, President Bush had not heard from President Gorbachev. Q Margaret, did Bessmertnykh present any new ideas to the Secretary? And do you have any response or characterization of those ideas? MS. TUTWILER: I would refer you to the Foreign Minister's transcript there in Geneva when he spoke to the press. He characterized for you what he had brought. And, no, we don't have a response. Q Margaret, are you considering to restore or reduce the nuclear weapons market in the Korean Peninsula as reported in the Los Angeles Times Sunday edition yesterday? MS. TUTWILER: As you know, sir, as a matter of policy the United States neither confirms nor denies the presence or absence of nuclear weapons at any specific location. Q One follow up, please. What is your course of action or policy when you know that North Korea has -- it is confirmed that North Korea has developed 90% or a 100% of the nuclear weapons. Intelligence sources confirmed that North Korea has already executed several experimentations of nuclear detonation systems which is very vital in the development of a nuclear weapon. MS. TUTWILER: Without acknowledging or confirming all of which is contained in your question, I will restate for you what is our standard policy concerning nuclear safeguards in North Korea. As you know, when North Korea acceeded to the NPT in 1985, it accepted the obligation of signing and implementing a safeguards agreement with the IAEA within 18 months. The U.S. and many other countries have expressed concern about North Korea's unsafeguarded nuclear program. If the DPRK signs and fully implements a full scope safeguards agreement at an early date, it would be a positive development. Q On that, Margaret, did you see the announcement by the North Koreans that they are now going to accept international inspection of their nuclear facilities? MS. TUTWILER: As I was walking down the hall, Richard mentioned to me he had just seen one wire story to this effect, Jim, so I don't have an instant reaction for you. And I believe what Richard told me he saw was someone with the IAEA saying this, so I'd just like to check it out, please. Q Could we go back to the Middle East a minute? Do you have a response to the Jordanian charter -- the national charter -- that was adopted? MS. TUTWILER: Yes. In November 1989, at the time of Jordanian parliamentary elections, we applauded those elections as part of the renewal of the electoral process in Jordan. We understand that this charter permits political parties and in our view is another positive step in the opening up of the political process. Q Coming back to START for just a second, what is the status of the agreement that was reached in Lisbon for the START negotiators in Geneva to be accelerated to a high level? Are the people whom you said a few moments ago that were working in Geneva now -- is that the high level? Or was it decided subsequent to that, that that wouldn't be done? MS. TUTWILER: I think, to be honest with you, when Secretary Baker said that on a Saturday in Lisbon, on Thursday he gave to -- or Friday -- Foreign Minister Bessmertnykh a letter from President Bush to President Gorbachev dealing with START. He and Foreign Minister Bessmertnykh had an additional meeting not 1 week later, so that's very high level. And as far as they have both said, and said in Lisbon, that at some point it might be warranted that their senior arms control experts -- on our side meaning Under Secretary Bartholomew -- might be going to Geneva. There's just no decision today on Reggie going to Geneva. Q I understand that. I guess my question was they didn't say "at some point." I think the Secretary said, "very early that week" is what he said. MS. TUTWILER: That's right. Q What I was asking is what happened to that? Why was it decided that that should not occur? MS. TUTWILER: They decided -- I believe we were in town less than 72 hours. As you know, the President spoke to one meeting that he had that he said was very important. They decided to have the President write a letter to President Gorbachev which Secretary Baker personally delivered to the Foreign Minister, and that's how it was decided. I mean, he's not locked in concrete to what he said in Geneva, and I believe he said, "We may look at...." -- I'll get the transcript -- or "maybe they could very early this week." Q Would it be accurate for us to say that at this point President Bush and President Gorbachev are, in effect, negotiating the end of the START treaty rather than having the negotiators do it? MS. TUTWILER: I think that the President and President Gorbachev have both said how important this is to them. That's reinforced in my mind by the President sending a letter to President Gorbachev. I'm assuming we will have a response. The Secretary of State and the Foreign Minister of the Soviet Union have now had two meetings. You asked me earlier were they planning to get together in Berlin. I said I envisioned they would. That will be three meetings in 3 weeks' time. And, of course, the experts are there with instructions. I know our team is. In fact, I think our team has an augmented team with extra experts there that were going over there this weekend. So I think that every level they are, as Secretary Baker stated, working on this issue at an intensified pace. Q Margaret, Kuwait. Heavy sentences still. Stories of Palestinian intimidation and flight. Anything new to report on the situation? Any new intercessions? Any new promises from your loyal friend during the Gulf war, from the Kuwaiti Government? MS. TUTWILER: I don't know of any new promises. I assume that you saw excerpts from -- not the whole thing -- of Ambassador Gnehm's speech this weekend in Kuwait. Q I saw reports of it. Yes. MS. TUTWILER: We obviously have seen -- I believe there was a new decision in the Kuwaiti Government concerning appeals of decisions that are made by this -- Q Tribunal. MS. TUTWILER: Right. And that's obviously a step that is a positive step and one that we would welcome. But overall, as you know, this is something that we have continued to raise at every level. The President, as I remember, called the Amir recently. The Secretary of State has been there twice and raised this. Our Ambassador and Embassy personnel raise it all the time. But I don't know of something that is specifically new, Barry, to point to. It's something we will continue to press on, and something that we care a lot about. Barrie?

[Iraq: Operation Provide Comfort; Refugees]

Q Margaret, there's been a report that the French are pulling out of northern Iraq some time in the next couple of weeks, and they say they're doing so because a decision has been made that all of the allies will be out of Iraq by the end of this month. Do you have any response to that? MS. TUTWILER: If there is a decision, I personally am unaware of it. As you know, our intention has always been to turn this over to the international community, the UNHCR. My understanding is that has been completed. I do not have for you, however, a time frame concerning the United States' forces, and I don't know about the French that you've just asked me. But let me say that in our opinion a milestone in Operation Provide Comfort was achieved on Friday, June 7, with the transition of humanitarian relief efforts for Iraqi refugees in northern Iraq from U.S. forces to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. UNHCR is now responsible for overall management of the humanitarian effort, including coordinating all the actions of the non-governmental and private voluntary organizations, providing food distribution, water, health care, shelter, and social services to the Iraqi refugees and displaced persons. Coalition forces, however, continue to support U.N. efforts with transfer of excess supplies and equipment, ranging from food and paper plates to vehicles, generators, and tents. Also coalition forces will continue to provide some specialized medical assistance, transportation assistance, fuel, communications, and civil/military liaison for the relief effort. Operation Provide Comfort has accomplished most of its major goals. In little more than 2 months, the multinational military forces of the combined task force have stopped the suffering and dying in mountain refugee camps, delivered more than 34 million pounds of supplies, created an environment which allowed the refugees to leave the mountain camps and return to their homes, and built the refugee support structure which has now been turned over to the U.N. control. The task force continues to redeploy personnel and units as they finish their mission. As of June 7, there were 18,381 coalition personnel supporting Operation Provide Comfort. This is down from a high of 21,170 personnel committed to the operation at its peak strength. And, as I've said, as far as for the United States, there is no date that's been set for the withdrawal of our forces or all coalition forces that I personally am aware of. Q In his news conference in Copenhagen, the Secretary suggested that the United States would not leave until it had received assurances that the Kurds would be all right. Have we received any assurances at all from the Iraqis? MS. TUTWILER: I'm not sure if we have received direct assurances from the Iraqis. As you know, in many of these places, the various international organizations are in there. They are working. It's my understanding they are still -- (TO STAFF) Aren't these talks still going on, Richard? MR. BOUCHER: [Inaudible] MS. TUTWILER: We're not sure. -- between the Iraqis and the Kurds in -- I believe it was Baghdad. As you know, the President -- or the only way I know how to answer it without going and checking this for you -- has said that we would not abandon these people and that we were there to provide for their safety and to get them back to their homes, and that's what this whole operation has been about. But I will check for you and see if we somehow -- maybe through the U.N. or something -- have had any direct kind of conversations about this. Q Can you confirm reports out of Tehran that there has been an Iraqi attack on Shi'ites in southern Iraq? MS. TUTWILER: I can't either confirm or deny it. I'd have to check for you. I don't know. Q That raises the question -- that report, though, raises the -- you spoke of the atmosphere that's been created and the conditions that have been created for the Kurds. It does raise the question of whether the coalition effort has accomplished the same sort of security, and so on, atmosphere for the Shi'a in the south. Do you have any comment on what the atmosphere or situation is for those other refugees in the south? MS. TUTWILER: I don't want to speculate just off the top of my head. I'd be happy to get back with the refugee people and ask them what the situation is there. I'd just be wildly guessing. Q There's new pressure to normalize relations with Cuba -- MS. TUTWILER: Excuse me? Q There's new pressure to bring Cuba into the Western hemisphere fold again. The Mexicans are promoting a conference in Guadalajara -- Ybarro-American conference -- for July, and Castro is going to it. Do you have anything new on that situation? MS. TUTWILER: I don't know anything about the conference that you've mentioned in July. I'll be happy to look into it for you. And I just, I believe, last Friday when I left, restated United States' policy concerning improving relations with Cuba, and there's no change in our policy. Q How about the meeting in Paris on the oil -- the producer/consumer countries that the French and the Venezuelans are pushing? MS. TUTWILER: I don't know anything about that conference either. Sorry. I'll look into it. Q You've announced that you've received an invitation to it and were studying it. MS. TUTWILER: (TO STAFF) Do you know what he's talking about, Richard? An oil conference? MR. BOUCHER: We've taken the question when he asked a week or so ago, and we haven't heard anything new. MS. TUTWILER: O.K. Maybe the Press Office has a response for you. I'm sorry. I'm unaware of it. Q Margaret, on the Philippines, do you have anything on the evacuation of personnel, and do you have anything on how the evacuation might impact the base negotations? MS. TUTWILER: I don't have anything on how this might impact the base negotiations, and I'm not exactly sure what your question would be concerning the evacuation. I mean, most of it is all out there. You know what's going on. It's been very public. I can add that Ambassador Platt has exercised his disaster declaration authority, allowing him to provide $25,000 to the Philippine National Red Cross for and in case there is any type of relief that is needed there, and the money will be available tomorrow. There's nothing else, to be honest with you, that I know of, that's not already out there. Q Margaret, Amnesty International has published a report which charges Britain of seriously undermining human rights in northern Ireland and saying that the government frequently covers up illegal actions by the security forces. Do you have any comment? The State Department has never hesitated to comment on these things before in its human rights report. I was wondering if you could look into it. MS. TUTWILER: I'll look into it for you. Q Margaret, has the United States gotten any response yet from the Soviet Union, the invitation to go to the arms control meeting in Paris? MS. TUTWILER: Not that I know of. Q Do you know what's holding that up? MS. TUTWILER: No. Q Does it surprise you that Moscow hasn't been quicker to respond? MS. TUTWILER: I don't know if "surprise" -- that's your adjective. We obviously would hope that they would reply in the positive. I don't know and do not have an answer for you on why they have not. As you know, we welcomed the announcement by the Chinese -- I believe it was Thursday or Friday -- and we do not have a response yet. Q Has the Secretary discussed this with Foreign Minister Bessmertnykh in the last couple of weeks? MS. TUTWILER: I'm not sure if he brought this up when we were in Geneva or not. I'll have to check. I can't remember. Did he say he did? I don't think he did. Q I thought he did in Lisbon. MS. TUTWILER: In Lisbon? Q Yes. MS. TUTWILER: Let me just check for you. I don't remember hearing that this was brought up in Geneva, but let me ask him just to double check myself, please. Q This is an opportunity to ask you if you have any guidance there on any biological tests that have been postponed by the U.S. MS. TUTWILER: Biological tests? Q Biological weapons. This may not be the place to ask, but there's a report around that, symbolically at least, the United States is going to stop some of its biological testing and some other tests as well. MS. TUTWILER: I don't know anything about a test or proposed stopping of test, etc. I'll be happy to ask for you. Q Margaret, can you go back to the Middle East for just a second? MS. TUTWILER: Sure. Q As far as you know, is the Administration going forward with exploring the possibility of issuing invitations to a Middle East peace conference, and has the Administration notified the Israeli Government that it is, in fact, going forward with looking into the possibility of issuing those invitations with the consent of the Soviet Union? MS. TUTWILER: That's a detail that no one that I'm aware of in the Administration has ever discussed on the record, Mary. That is something that, I'm well aware, floats out there in various commentary and press reports, but it's something that I'm simply not in a position to discuss. It gets into a level of detail that everyone has refrained, so far to date, of discussing. Q Tomorrow the House of Representatives is going to take up the foreign aid authorization bill, and included in that is going to be a prohibition against major new U.S. military arms transfers to the Middle East until there is an agreement on a Middle East arms control initiative or unless the President certifies that other suppliers have delivered arms to the area. Does the State Department have a reaction yet on the House foreign aid authorization bill? MS. TUTWILER: If we do, I believe it will be probably be articulated tomorrow in testimony by Under Secretary of State Reggie Bartholomew who, it's my understanding, is testifying tomorrow on this subject. Q What about a unilateral moratorium? I would presume that something has been said about a unilateral moratorium? MS. TUTWILER: I haven't heard about a unilateral moratorium. I would refer you to the President's initiative that he announced -- what? -- 10 days ago, and I don't recall -- correct me if I'm wrong -- hearing him announce a unilateral moratorium. Q No. This would be a moratorium until his plan is worked out. MS. TUTWILER: I just haven't heard such a concept. I'll be happy to ask the arms control experts. Q Margaret, do you have any comment or statement on the agreement that was signed in Colombia between President Gaviria and the new National Congress suspending the legislation? MS. TUTWILER: No, I don't. Q Thank you. MS. TUTWILER: Thanks, Barry. (The briefing concluded 12:54 p.m.)